If we want to get really pedantic, every generated token is the answer to the query: what's the next most probable token in this sequence of tokens?

https://www.bandlab.com/creation-features

You can have a very technically successful project, but it doesn't mean it'll be used.

That's beside the point though. I was pointing out the hypocrisy. This sidestepping and deflection seems to be a trend with you, both here and in the mailing list.

No point in responding to me though if it's just to grandstand. You've made it apparent to me that I want nothing to do with your project. Cheers.

Number of contributors or pull requests isn't a good metric at the moment since the advent of Claude Code et al. has seen a dramatic uptick in both everywhere.

But people are so quick to label their vibe-coded codebase as high quality and no grace is going to be given to a machine.

What comments are you seeing that are calling code from humans high-quality?

I can't speak for the poster, but to me, there's no joy in either because, plan or not, it doesn't feel like I am the one building it. If I got someone (AI or human) to build a castle in Minecraft to my specifications, regardless of how detailed those specs are, it wouldn't feel like I built anything. The sense of accomplishment is just gone.

Honestly, I think I'd rather be the one getting specs and figuring out how to implement them than the other way around.

> There are projects I now start without thinking twice that I never would have considered a few years ago.

I'm sick of seeing this argument because it's not as persuasive as you think. If you were incapable of doing it before, why would I ever trust that you could properly evaluate the result? Even if I did, it's still like saying, "I never would've been able to do this project without a subordinate that knew how to do it, now look at me!" Okay? So why would I choose you when it sounds like I could pick anyone with basic programming knowledge to manage the subordinate since I clearly don't need someone with the know-how to do the thing, just someone capable of wrangling a coding agent? Might as well get the cheapest college CS graduate I can find.

For example, I can move forward by word with 'w' and when I get to the word I want to delete, just hit 'd', or edit it at the beginning with 'i' or end with 'a', or surround with parentheses with 'ms('.

I don't want to have to go into a completely separate mode. It's annoying and I have to constantly be cognizant that I need to switch to that mode just to do basic text editing.

> Had someone else parrot this line to me the other day, but I remain unconvinced.

Side note: this comes off as condescending, as if I need to convince you of the validity of my subjective experience. So, along the same lines: I'm unconvinced there is any good argument for vim's action-selection way of doing things when practically no other UI works like that. It's like hitting ctrl+c before highlighting the text you want to copy with your mouse.

"Product is really good at X, much better than at Y" does not imply that it's bad at Y, and even if it did, if you're targeting an audience that only cares about X, who gives a shit about Y? Might as well throw Y under the bus to boost the perceived effectiveness of product at X even more in comparison.

I want off this train to hell. I am truly (not exaggerating) on the verge of abandoning everything to go live in the woods.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ublock-origin-lite/id674534269...