<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: 2ndorderthought</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=2ndorderthought</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 10:03:05 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=2ndorderthought" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by 2ndorderthought in "Agentic AI systems violate the implicit assumptions of database design"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>There is literally no excuse. The fact that there is any resistance to this let alone from multiple people terrifies me.</p>
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<p>You are thinking way too hard. This person is a hazard that needs to learn the hard way.<p>If velocity means letting agents live edit a db, I'm fine being slow. Holy hell. Let these people crash and burn but definitely let me know the app name so I know never to use it first.</p>
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<p>Or that opus and mythos are training on the data somehow such that there solutions are incorrectly right. Or that openai is lying/wrong. Or that all of these companies are cheating so much it doesn't really matter and never did.</p>
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<p>Of the ones I knew, zero. They got their degree, put all of their stuff in the apartment dumpster, a lot of it brand new, and left. Can't speak for others.</p>
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<p>Agreed. Especially if there is any likelihood that the people doing the surveillance are doing the disappearings. It only makes it easier.</p>
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<p>Yes. 100%. Chatgpt can't get drunk with you share personal experiences grill food for you or network with humans for you. At some point certain people have to choose to live a life otherwise why have one anyways.</p>
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<p>I should look into mailing lists. That would be a great filter for the "I need it now at any cost" interactions. Thank you for the indirect advice.</p>
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<p>Only in 2026 is AI the answer to everything and when the negative traits of our behaviour are amplified due to AI it clearly has nothing to do with AI even when the article exactly about that.</p>
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<p>Are you aware of what trump did so that Iran could have a nuclear weapon? Look up his last term, about which former president already had a successful agreement in place to prevent that.</p>
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<p>I have worked for companies in different countries.<p>I think the striking thing is how US companies tend to have no idea how to be wealthy. Record profits, so the ceos use all of their tricks to get rich quick? They are already rich! Don't fix what isn't broken. Not every company needs to expand into 10 new markets, or have 5% lay offs or double in revenue. Some of this is investor pressure, but often it's not. Some guy who made it to the top is bored, doesn't feel like he is obviously doing enough, so he keeps making decisions to justify his position.<p>This isn't to insight flames but the European companies I worked for knew how to be wealthy! The market took a down turn from COVID, they ate the cost to keep their people. Some flashy new vertical is trending. They decided it's not for them, they have a brand and customers that they should focus on while everyone else works out the kinks. The company decides, why go public at all, we are successful and don't need anyone else's influence over us.<p>People say "you cannot project beyond 1 quarter". This is true in terms of catastrophe or gambler success. But its not true, if you act in q1 like there will be a q2 or even 5 years from now or heaven forbid a second or third generation you make different moves. You value different things.</p>
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<p>Personally this type of behavior played a large part in why I left 2 oss communities.<p>A lot of the passerbys nowadays feel like trolls. They come in copy pasting chatgpt responses spamming they need help instead of chit chatting asking questions. We fix their problems, they don't trust us or understand at all. Or worse we tell them their situation is unreasonably bad and they should start over, they scream at us about how some unimaginably bad code passes tests and compiles just fine and how we are dumb.<p>They tell us we don't need to exist anymore in one way or another. They try to show off terrible code we try to offer real suggestions to improve it, they don't care. Then they leave the community once their vibe/agentic coding leaves that part of their code base. Complete waste of time, they learned nothing, contribute nothing, no fun was had, no ah-hahs, just grimey interactions.</p>
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<p>There is a lot of wisdom in this.<p>At the end of the day chatgpt won't be there to hold our hands in the hospital, have a laugh over failing to pick up a date, get invited to a bbq, groan over the state of the code in utils.c, or recommend us for our next job/promotion. They say software is social for a different reason than most of these examples.<p>It's good to be efficient, whatever that means, but there are no metrics on the gains that get made by talking to people. In a lot of ways those gains are what life is about.</p>
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<p>As someone with a bit of higher education experience. There was a large amount of Chinese students paying cash to do their Ph.d's in the US. Probably 50% of the student body in some schools. A large portion of that 50% went immediately back to China after obtaining their degrees.<p><a href="https://eig.org/immigrant-retention-estimates/" rel="nofollow">https://eig.org/immigrant-retention-estimates/</a></p>
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<p>Troll post.</p>
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<p>I tried codex but found out it's not about how the model is but it's really about how Claude is better.</p>
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<p>In your mind all of this is perfectly normal? I just have to know</p>
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<p>I know several people who have. They cannot even get awarded funds right now. All funding is being directed to grant mills.</p>
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<p>So... This is worth a personal Google search on your part. This organization is a large part of the life blood for all research and development in the United States. It funds research, students, projects.<p>You know how the US had people from all over the world trying to get into our schools, and how they regularly figured things out important economic healthcare and other discoveries by being ahead of the curve? This group is a huge reason why.<p>Here's a good link for just 9 things that came from nsf funded studies. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/16/science/federally-funded-science-breakthroughs.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/16/science/federally-funded-...</a> the first being GPS. There are way more and the obvious ripple down effect of having trained people who went into industry and innovated in the private sector.</p>
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<p>I won't quibble even though I likely should. Have to remember this is HN and companies need to shill their work otherwise ... Yes.<p>I will play along and assume this is sound. 10-40%  +/- 10% is along the lines of "sort of" in a completely unreliable, unguaranteed and unproven way sure.</p>
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<p>LLMs "hallucinate" because they are stochastic processes predicting the next word without any guarantees at being correct or truthful. It's literally an unavoidable fact unless we change the modelling approach. Which very few people are bothering to attempt right now.<p>Training data quality does matter but even with "perfect" data and a prompt in the training data it can still happen. LLMs don't actually know anything and they also don't know what they don't know.<p><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817</a></p>
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