This is more a limitation on the architecture - virtually nobody has power arch hanging around to play on.

20-something-ish years ago I setup qmail in my VPS and a .qmail-default file captures all my me-sitename@vps emails. If they send me junk I echo '#' > .qmail-sitename and that's the end of it.

Other things that get a mixture like someone annoying who harvested my ebay/paypal addresses or something, I'll sift out the good (stuff I need) via maildrop and everything else gets junked.

Honestly one of the best, but annoying, things I've done, well worth the time invested as I have a nice clean mailbox.

Are there any moderators left at LinkedIn?

So from Mozilla's point of view, they must be continually worse alternative. They'd shoot themselves in the foot if they looked like the better alternative.

Really? People of any age will use whatever the group is using to talk with, because that's where the talk is happening. Most teenagers don't use Slack either, but will if the group notes say use this. There might be some "no one uses" argument because usage has dropped off almost everything since web searching got a lot better. There are fewer lingering people because most answers are readily available. Remember TLDP days? Search is so much better now.

We're not on about general IRC though, just for semi-private use where Slack would have been an IM tool.

> And I'm sure you're smart enough to see obvious differences between email and a real time chat platform.

How is email not a real time chat platform? I see plenty of chat happening on mail lists, and I certainly can't out-type email delivery. Sure, mail sometimes needs a DNS lookup, sometimes has anti-virus/spam filtering too. Maybe that's better for public chat systems anyway.

Thinking more about it, I'd rather have maillists than a web/electron client.

I'm not on about using email for all IM (but it could be), I'm on about more useful messages that you'd want searched later. "Hey, I'm doing X on Y day, here's what you need to know", most of the time this sort of thing gets missed in a IM flood channel.

I don't see much difference between Slack/Teams etc and IRC or maillists, just the tools that existed before are much lighter and have so many more clients you can use the one you know already most of the time.

Using something browser bases puts you into a position where you have to choose between one or two browser engines and suffer however they manage the CPU and RAM.

Teams hogged the RAM and CPU when I used it in the browser, for what wasn't much more than IRC, and a terrible message archive. Mattermost isn't much better at searching either, and it's mostly glorified IRC channels. The only niche is perhaps mobile users, who, could arguably also use an IRC client or browser based one at that.

I like to defend as much as the next person, but the defence from Slack ignores the approach.

"It was a mistake" isn't enough to gloss over the trouble, as a service provider, they caused. What a rug pull, and to then perhaps blame it on a sales person isn't right. They saw a lot of users and tried to extort, no negotiation.

Honestly though, what can slack do that can't be accomplished by a good old-fashioned mail list or IRC?

They're the same thing in terms of billing and data.

Embrace, extend, extinguish. Just this time they're extinguishing their less profitable projects.

It was good, but IIS had some faults, can't remember what, they wanted to replace it quickly with 2003. There isn't much wrong with Windows XP, objectively speaking.