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New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: How did Magic Leap become irrelevant?"

Holomakerbot — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 23:45:32 +0000

Price needs to come down and it needs to be wireless. I would wager 3-5 years just for wireless. Could be a decade for price to come down under a thousand. But I also think by then the separate processor wont be necessary anymore, either using your phone or cloud.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: How did Magic Leap become irrelevant?"

Holomakerbot — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 19:55:35 +0000

Have you seen the breakthroughs that Magic Leap 2 has achieved? Still not at the price point for consumers but it pretty much solves all the annoyances of the first device or HoloLens for that matter. No longer looking through a tiny FOV, holograms no longer transparent, usable outdoors, first device able to display black. It is quite an achievement.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: How did Magic Leap become irrelevant?"

Holomakerbot — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 19:38:52 +0000

The irony with Karl’s blog is that he’s done nearly a 180 on Magic Leap with the debut of their second product. They’ve ironically becciome relevant again, just not in the consumer space at all.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: How did Magic Leap become irrelevant?"

Holomakerbot — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 19:36:01 +0000

There is a middle ground between hardware being ubiquitous and being like 3D Tv that fizzled out just a few years after launching. VR has been growing exponentially each year since its consumer launch in 2016. AR will just open up the use cases even more and helps it continue to grow.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: How did Magic Leap become irrelevant?"

Holomakerbot — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 19:33:21 +0000

People should really google this before asking the question multiple times.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: How did Magic Leap become irrelevant?"

Holomakerbot — Thu, 07 Jul 2022 19:32:12 +0000

They have two products. The second one has already been getting a lot of praise for two major breakthroughs— the ability to display black and the largest FOV in a see through optical headset. The whole topic of this thread is a bit of a straw man, as they’ve actually become relevant again, by making a compelling device and pivoting to enterprise. They’re just not in the consumer game anymore.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Dented Reality: Magic Leap Sees Slow Sales, Steep Losses"

Holomakerbot — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 01:30:32 +0000

Honestly, with high priced dev kits they just need to be given out for free like Valve did with the Vive. Magic leap has given out thousands just to get devs on board.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Dented Reality: Magic Leap Sees Slow Sales, Steep Losses"

Holomakerbot — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 01:29:06 +0000

Not really. Remember that before their device launched they were ridiculed for being too honest and showing the rock throwing guy demo. This was months before you could buy it: https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/273280-magic-leaps-first-...

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Dented Reality: Magic Leap Sees Slow Sales, Steep Losses"

Holomakerbot — Fri, 06 Dec 2019 21:01:54 +0000

He's underestimating (though not by a whole lot probably). The 6k numbers from the above article refer to the first 6 months sale. Guttag is talking about the last 18 months. Also doesn't account for the headsets that have been seeded to devs.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Dented Reality: Magic Leap Sees Slow Sales, Steep Losses"

Holomakerbot — Fri, 06 Dec 2019 20:59:02 +0000

Notice that zero VR companies show you through the lens footage. This is not restricted to Magic Leap. You can find amateur attempts by owners to shoot through Magic Leap, Hololens, and various VR headsets if you go on Youtube and Twitter. But no company does this at all. Just another misunderstanding by people here who think they've found another reason to nitpick at Magic leap, but it's a widespread industry issue. VR is actually the worst about this because they only show straight from the PC output with none of the limitations you actually experience like FOV and screen door effect.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Dented Reality: Magic Leap Sees Slow Sales, Steep Losses"

Holomakerbot — Fri, 06 Dec 2019 20:55:53 +0000

That's just how it goes with AR, you can find some amateur clips people have tried to shoot through the lens themselves but it's very difficult. Even Microsoft doesn't shoot through the lens and has gotten similar flack. Best they can do is composite imaging, which actually looks worse than through the lens.

Hololens 2 Is Likely Using Laser Beam Scanning Display: Bad Combined with Worse

Holomakerbot — Fri, 22 Feb 2019 20:51:35 +0000

Article URL: https://www.kguttag.com/2019/02/22/hololens-2-combining-two-bad-concepts/

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19228988

Points: 4

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New comment by Holomakerbot in "Magic Leap is real and it’s a janky marvel"

Holomakerbot — Sun, 14 Oct 2018 15:18:50 +0000

You’ll actually be hard pressed to find any press anywhere that thinks the hardware is bad.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Magic Leap Review Part I"

Holomakerbot — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:11:13 +0000

This was reported just the other day:

"The original HoloLens has been out for a long time now, so a new (hopefully cheaper) version is overdue, but it now looks like we won’t see it before 2020."

https://www.techradar.com/news/hololens-20-could-be-delayed-...

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Magic Leap Review Part I"

Holomakerbot — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:09:15 +0000

The silver lining is that devs actually really like the device. Despite the hype/reality factor that tainted the initial reviews the consensus is that the device itself is actually quite good. If all you read are the negatives, especially hit pieces from Guttag then I could see why you have the point of view you do. In fact you'll be hard pressed to find any reviews outside of Guttag and Palmer Luckey who state the device is bad:

Hololens developers:

https://brekel.com/category/magic-leap/

https://medium.com/futurepi/magic-leap-one-in-depth-review-b...

AR/VR reporters:

https://twitter.com/kentbye/status/1038927438279888896?s=21

https://uploadvr.com/heres-what-actual-developers-think-of-t...

New content is getting praise:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/19/17876488/angry-birds-magi...

And this is just the start. Their dev conference is in a week. Lots more to see and I don't think they're going anywhere for a very long time.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Magic Leap Review Part I"

Holomakerbot — Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:01:58 +0000

You either didn't notice or forgot the bad press Hololens endured for misleading advertising:

https://mashable.com/2015/10/06/microsoft-hololens-misleadin...

https://www.theverge.com/2015/10/6/9465839/microsoft-hololen...

Going back further, Microsoft has a history of this with things like Project Milo on the Kinect. These things really don't matter in the end though. Its the technology itself that matters, and how good or bad it is relative to the market.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Is Palmer Luckey right about Magic Leap being a tragic heap?"

Holomakerbot — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 15:12:45 +0000

Most reviews acknowledge that despite it not being a huge technological advancement it’s still the best standalone AR headset. Second, devs love it. Check out the activity on social media or hands on reviews from actual devs using it. They’re very positive about it.

Here’s a recent write up from a well known Hololens dev: https://brekel.com/my-thoughts-on-developing-with-magic-leap...

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Magic Leap One Creator's Edition First Look"

Holomakerbot — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 14:38:36 +0000

Ironic that you think HoloLens would be the one that plays nice with every device when it’s already limited to Windows. Magic Leap on the other hand is a less than two week old device that already plays nice with iOS/Android/MacOS and Windows.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Magic Leap One Creator's Edition First Look"

Holomakerbot — Tue, 21 Aug 2018 14:33:30 +0000

Exactly. Take two minutes to look at the last popular posts about magic Leap here and it’s filled with patronizing criticism of anyone that thinks the product could either be real, not a scam, or actually good.

New comment by Holomakerbot in "Ask HN: Is Magic Leap just vaporware?"

Holomakerbot — Wed, 01 Aug 2018 00:05:36 +0000

Lots of confusion over this device, which can be chalked up to all the FUD spread around about it. Nearly half the 2 billion they got was in the last year alone. Investors like Google have been there since day one and not left.