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In April 2024, Congress passed a $95.3 billion national-security supplemental package that included funding for Ukraine, Israel, and Indo-Pacific security. The Israel portion totaled about $26.38 billion.

Key points about that money:

Total Israel-related funding: about $26.38B. Humanitarian aid: roughly $9.15B (for civilians affected by conflicts, including Gaza). Missile defense: about $5.2B for systems like Iron Dome and David’s Sling. Weapons procurement: about $3.5B for new weapons. Other military supplies/services: about $4.4B.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/whats-us-houses-foreign-aid... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Law_118-50

Hamas (Oct 7), Hezbollah on the northern border, the Houthis in the Red Sea, Iraqi militias hitting U.S. bases — that’s been Iran’s strategy for decades.

April 2024 may have been the first direct exchange, but the war with Iran’s proxy system was already underway.

The Americans still wanted the Iranians to commit to zero enrichment, and proposed giving them free nuclear fuel for a civil nuclear program, but the Iranians refused, a U.S. official said. After the talks ended, Mr. Witkoff and Mr. Kushner told Mr. Trump they did not think a deal could be reached."

That NYT detail is the key piece for me.

If Iran was presented with an offer of zero enrichment plus guaranteed civil nuclear fuel — meaning energy without weapons capability — and still refused, that tells you something.

Enrichment isn’t symbolic. It’s the hard technical pathway to weapons-grade material. You don’t insist on retaining it unless you want the option to cross the threshold.

The Tehran regime has funded proxies and asymmetric violence for decades. A nuclear-armed version of that regime isn’t just a regional problem — it fundamentally changes deterrence math across the Middle East and likely triggers proliferation.

If intervention now prevents a regime with that track record from getting nuclear weapons, that’s not escalation for its own sake. It’s preemption of a much more dangerous equilibrium.

You can debate costs and risks — but pretending the enrichment fight was benign ignores what enrichment is for.

The argument for this being as important (or more) is different though.

Russia launched a conventional invasion to redraw borders.

The regime in Tehran has spent nearly five decades exporting violence through proxies — Hezbollah, Hamas, militias in Iraq, Syria, Yemen — destabilizing multiple regions simultaneously while avoiding direct accountability. It’s been a long-running asymmetric war, not a single event.

If this moment marks a direct confrontation with that system, it’s not a regional flare-up. It’s potentially the first real attempt to confront a state that’s institutionalized proxy terrorism as a core strategy.

Different kind of challenge. Possibly broader consequences.