> Which should make things easier to educate OS-neutrally.

It also makes it unnecessary to teach minute differences. If a student needs to make a switch later for educational, vocational or interest-based reasons, they can figure out the minute differences or seek help.

>> and the primary software kids will be using regardless of hardware is likely either G Suite or Microsoft Office depending on what the school district prefers.

> That's what I object to.

I figured you would, but again: anybody will learn any system they need to because of either work, education or personal reasons. People don’t switch off Excel & don’t want to switch off of Excel because they don’t have to. If you’re only ever going to learn exactly one spreadsheet app in your life, Excel is the one you probably want to learn, unless you don’t strictly need Excel for your vocation, then you can make the choice yourself. Options exist, but it’s fine to treat Excel like the default, because it is.

If they want to game, they’ll eventually get a Windows PC. Even if the school district doesn’t deploy Macs, they’ll likely end up with a Mac by the time of college anyway. And tomorrow won’t be the Year of Desktop Linux either, unless Microsoft really really botches Windows.

Chromebooks can be had for cheaper, but if a school district was on the fence before about moving to Macs, then Apple made the decision much easier for them.

To give you some idea, here’s an Asianometry video describing Taiwan’s prior DRAM attempts: https://youtu.be/ehT3U935Pww

https://youtu.be/K0ZWuhcM7t4

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Apples-Rip-Mix-Burn-camp...

You can’t really call it a pro-piracy message though. Ripping implies you have the original CD already.

Call it a bundle if you like, but the game itself was a packed-in the box and sold as an item with the GameCube, i.e. a pack-in.

So they were optimizing for something, but it definitely wasn’t packaging efficiency.

And they’re just two of the four major codes, two of the six if you include Gaelic football & gridiron which are both relatively minor.

My favorite thing about this is that the term “soccer” originated in British English in the late 19th Century as an abbreviation for association football, yet we get blamed for what’s actually a useful term of distinction given the presence of a much more popular (domestically) football code.[1]

My second favorite thing is that apart from receiving the blame from the people we ought to be crediting for the term, is that even outside of America in other primarily English-speaking countries, “soccer” is the prevailing term for association football in Ireland, Australia[2], Canada & New Zealand[2]. Even in Puerto Rican Spanish and Canadian French. Despite this, America specifically gets blamed. This is easily one of the best century long psy-ops the world has ever seen. Even if we were actually alone in this though (and we’re not), as long as we keep calling it soccer, the prevailing English word is soccer, and the English language doesn’t owe any deference to another Indo-European language.

Sorry to the parent for the tangent. This is just an endless source of amusement to me how riled up soccer fans get about this difference in terminology.

[1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/soccer

[2] This is made complicated in Australia & New Zealand by the fact that the local governing bodies for soccer changed their official names and the way they refer to the sport to “football” around 20 years ago, but that didn’t overnight change the way people referred to soccer. Australia also has multiple sport codes that people colloquially call “football” and which “football” people mean is highly regional.

Like seriously, if I have to turn on a camera to get through a recaptcha then the website doing it can fuck right the hell off with extreme prejudice. My web browser is not allowed to access my cameras for any reason, no exceptions.

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Those speakers by the way are an ADA requirement, and the only information that should be coming out of them are the stop announcements & any comms from the driver that may be necessary. Anything else in four different languages is not required, including the track telling you not to stand too close to the doors on the bus.

> Plenty of younger people are already reverting to more primitive phones or physical media, and I wonder if it's just older addicted richer millenials that'll keep buying at even more than the already idiotic prices.

You don’t sell as many iPhones as Apple does if your market is only as narrow as “older addicted richer millennials” and your most expensive products in your flagship lines don’t fly off the shelves if they’re not already at some level of affordability. Under today’s prices, and this is due to change per Tim Cook’s comments of course, but under today’s prices the iPhone Pro line starts at $1099 and $1199 for the Pro & Pro Max line specifically, which you can get down by trading in an older phone, looking for a deal (prices in the channel are often discounted by $100 or so below Apple’s list price) and can be financed through either the carrier or Apple.

Now you can get that price up to $1999 if you specifically go for the Pro Max 2TB option, but the existence of a 2TB option doesn’t mean that’s the default option for most people. You can also get that price as low as $599 if you forego the flagship models entirely, and again, that’s Apple’s list prices, not necessarily prices in the channel.

I think your frugality is great, and if there’s some young people behaving more frugally, that’s also great. I haven’t upgraded my phone in about 5 years and don’t anticipate doing so this year either, but your remarks don’t read like they were sourced from real observations of either the American or the International markets, and in fact read like an eye-rolling generalization about millennials. Such as this:

> the likelihood seems low that significantly increased prices for effectively the same (boring) product would be absorbed by anyone other than the richest or older established crowd

1) we don’t know what Apple’s prices are going up to yet. They haven’t announced any actual price increases, so we also don’t know how significant the price increase will be. Naturally we should expect sales to be hurt by any price increase, but it’s a bit premature to overstate their significance.

2) their most recent iPhones were not so boring that they didn’t fly off the shelves at a pace Apple couldn’t anticipate because they sold well above expectations, and that is specifically the flagship models. Now it often follows that the following year’s model is more “boring” by comparison, but the view you take their new products is not borne by market evidence.

I’d love to know how much “plenty” in the parent’s perspective stacks up against just this one individual model line and whether it is at all distinguishable from noise.