I don't think the parent comment is claiming it's legal, other than the (unlikely) chance that this is licensed, just that it's up to Valve to enforce and not really our concern. A lot of cool things (like the similar https://noclip.website/) are prima facie copyright infringement.

It's under "googleworkspace", one of Google's GitHub organizations (linked on https://developers.google.com/workspace).

> Why does the repo say "This is not an officially supported Google product."?

This seems to be boilerplate that Google puts on open-source releases, e.g: https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/kaniko

It's not saying that it's not released by Google, but that it's not an officially supported Google product. I presume to make it clear that it's not covered by support agreements/bug bounties/etc. in the way products like Google Docs would be.

> Is it actually approved by Google or not?

It went through the launch/approval process (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48655744) and was announced by Justin's manager.

This relies on assuming legal's action made sense, when Justin is likely mentioning it specifically because it didn't make sense.

The Github account is linked to on https://developers.google.com/workspace ("Code Samples" near the bottom).

A monthly subscription to regain access is questionable to me, since it'd mean they are still storing the images. A one-time fee could be justified for the cost of recovering the data from cold storage, but risks incentivizing intentionally luring in users then unexpectedly holding their data as leverage to have them pay up as a business model.

Claiming a user can pay to recover their photos, while not actually having anything to restore, is misrepresentation.

I assume the idea isn't that developing a game means you don't get to vote as a citizen, but that the industry can't lobby for special access ("spent virtually all of their time with the gaming industry lobby groups").

I'd claim a relevant axis is argument as deduction (common in mathematics) vs argument as rhetoric/persuasion (common in politics).

It's not that the former type is necessarily rational. "All birds have wings, planes have wings, therefore planes are birds" is the former type of argument and fallacious, whereas "are you really comparing birds to planes?" is the latter type.

I feel the former can allow deeper exploration of some topic, but sometimes involves things like playing devil's advocate for stances outside of social norms - and requires others to engage at that level rather than taking the rhetoric path of shaming you for even considering it.

Fair to criticize "Open"AI, but I really don't want a "solution" that's just even more surveillance.

Can you link this? I'm unable to find them offering deepseek-v4-flash. I think you could even host the pro model for a bit under $1/Mtok. You can get ~1000TPS out of the box on a B300 that you can rent for ~$3/hr, so around $0.83/Mtok.

Regardless - Alibaba, DeepSeek, NovitaAI, AtlasCloud, Cloudflare, DeepInfra, SiliconFlow, GMICloud, Morph, Baidu, Parasail, DigitalOcean, AkashML, StreamLake and likely others all seem to be offering it under $0.3 per million output tokens[0].

> This makes it unclear how the true cost curve is progressing

For no actual improvement in efficiency to be presented as a 10X yearly improvement since 2018, we'd need to currently be getting 100000000X more intensive models than we should be for what we're paying (a $1/Mtok model actually costs $100000000/Mtok). Presenting, say, a 9X actual yearly improvement as a 10X yearly improvement seems feasible, but for much beyond that I think the exponential just compounds too fast to reasonably fake.

[0]: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash#pricing

VSCode will be used by plenty of non-AI-using developers, and the credential harvester is not specific to AI API tokens, but that 3/4 of the targets are AI coding tools is I assume where the claim comes from.

Maybe, but people have been saying deep learning is about to hit a wall since 2012, and many reasonable-sounding "machines fundamentally can't do X" have since fallen.

Feels like we're standing on a roof with floodwater up to our ankles - maybe it stops rising now, but we didn't foresee it getting anywhere near this high in the first place.

I do agree that progress will probably be more slow/gradual than others seem to predict, no "hard takeoff", but even being decades away is still relevant to someone starting a career in software development.

April of last year you'd get 1431 ELO[0] from o3-2025-04-16 for $8.00 per million output tokens. April of this year you can get 1436 ELO from deepseek-v4-flash for $0.2 per million output tokens.

[0]: https://huggingface.co/spaces/lmarena-ai/arena-leaderboard

Not that it'd be particularly hard to reword to fit all information. Feel like things are getting unnecessarily agitated ("You've been here long enough to understand", "you can't stand to be wrong", "Bro was never more glad there's anonymity on the internet", etc.) for no real reason.

A hybrid clipboard system is possible, but adds complexity and won't necessarily eliminate platform-specific bugs.

> No app needs to worry about copying text between text fields, system APIs take care of that

Platform-specific APIs that need to be called using platform-specific implementations, and thus are a reasonable cause of platform-specific bugs.

They're sufficient in many cases, but you'll still sometimes need the control of working with COM/etc. directly, and those libraries don't fully save you from platform-specific bugs (e.g: https://github.com/glfw/glfw/issues/2644).

> the app in question has no use for system clipboard in the first place

What do you expect to happen when you copy some text from an external editor into a text field?

There are many things it makes sense to copy/drag-drop between applications. There are cases where you might not need to, but using the system clipboard is still common.

> Meanwhile, open-source, non-Electron, multi-platform software that handles copy-paste via system clipboard exists just fine (VCV Rack comes to mind)

VCV Rack seems to just use GLFW to handle it, but again I'm not claiming these issues are unavoidable or more likely than not to occur. For any given issue with some software, 99% of other software will not have that same issue.