<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: aftbit</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=aftbit</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 19:04:49 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=aftbit" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by aftbit in "Outsourcing plus LocalAI will soon become more economical vs. Frontier labs"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>"Attention is all you need" - the larger bet is that by releasing your models open-weight, you'll get more attention and mindshare than if you tried to jump in to compete with the major closed providers, and the value of that attention will outweigh the cost of the training run.<p>So far, it's really only the Chinese labs (and FAIR or whatever Meta's project is called now) that are doing this. Oh yeah, and Google's Gemma.<p>At the moment, this is all massively distorted by the prestige and investment money flowing into the space. None of the labs have to charge the real cost of inference let alone the marginal cost of training because they are instead lighting investment money on fire to cover that.<p>One imagines (though I have not investigated in detail) that there's a degree of national prestige work going on too. The Chinese labs are trying to show that they can build better and more efficient models and are releasing open to undercut the US labs.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 15:18:56 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48281010</link><dc:creator>aftbit</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48281010</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48281010</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by aftbit in "What we lost when we stopped letting kids leave the front yard"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Which city? IMO having public transit and good sidewalks would be amazing for older kids in the 12 to 16 range. I grew up in a small suburb, connected to the world only by a busy 40 mph street without sidewalks. I was basically trapped at home unless I could convince my parents to take me somewhere until my friends started getting cars when I was 16 or 17.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 15:12:09 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48280929</link><dc:creator>aftbit</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48280929</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48280929</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by aftbit in "Outsourcing plus LocalAI will soon become more economical vs. Frontier labs"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Yes and no. Just take a look at the OpenRouter providers page:<p><a href="https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro/providers" rel="nofollow">https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro/providers</a><p>Deepseek v4 Pro is much cheaper when provided by Deepseek itself, likely as a combination of the loss leader strategy you mention and the desire to have more data flow through their pipeline for training. However, the same open weights model, provided by other providers, is somewhere in the $2-3/1M output-tokens range. Compare Opus 4.7 at $25/1M output-tokens.<p>Unless you mean that releasing open weights models is the loss leader, in which case, you might be right but I hope you're wrong. We've seen some of this from Qwen at least - their latest model is closed only. I hope there's always someone willing to make this bet and release better and better open models.</p>
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<p>The marginal cost of AI is not 0. That's one of the big differences between this and older SaaS software. Inference costs a lot of money. Even if you're looking at just capital depreciation, it's quite expensive. I suppose it's more accurate to say marginal cost is stepwise - adding 1 new user is 0 cost if and only if your existing inference hardware covers that user's usage. As soon as you need a new server, adding _that_ new user costs ~$20k/year (assuming 100k server and 5 year depreciation).<p>This is true for traditional SaaS too, but the number of concurrent users that could be served by one machine and the cost of the hardware were both at least an order of magnitude better.</p>
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<p>What about it? Energy production basically has to equal energy consumption in the medium term, so if the grandparent comment is correct, it is 2x per capita.<p>Dunno how trustworthy this source is, but it says ~35 MWh/person in China and 77 MWh/person in USA.<p><a href="https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use" rel="nofollow">https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2026 14:45:30 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48280579</link><dc:creator>aftbit</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48280579</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48280579</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by aftbit in "Outsourcing plus LocalAI will soon become more economical vs. Frontier labs"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>I wish Deepseek could read images. I've been having good luck guiding it around on personal projects, but anything that needs to render to a screen really needs to be looked at to see bugs.</p>
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<p>Free market competition? This is a pretty classic pattern. Leaders capture market with quality but run into trouble scaling, followers compete on price and availability. Given time, leaders eventually run out of upgrade runway and find themselves swallowed up by followers. Or alternatively, leaders think their lead is inevitable and miss a sea change or iterative upgrade path. Think IBM PCs before Compaq and other cheap clones ate their lunch.</p>
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<p>And yet despite the ban, China's contributions to Bitcoin mining remain very large.<p><a href="https://cryptonews.com/news/china-doubles-down-on-crypto-ban-after-detecting-new-trading-activity/" rel="nofollow">https://cryptonews.com/news/china-doubles-down-on-crypto-ban...</a></p>
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<p>Not only that, but they wrap the links in their email with click tracking provided by domains that have nothing to do with them (Mailgun or whatever). So even if you try to introspect the links you're clicking, they seem to go to a scammy domain even if they're legit!</p>
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<p>I got a coinbase scam from @akamai.com once. One of their acquisitions had a bad SPF I believe.</p>
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<p>I'm still on X :laugh:</p>
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<p>A* used to be called AI, now it's just an algorithm. AI is anything that is hard to do and we barely understand. Once we grok it, it's just an algorithm.</p>
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<p>One I've personally done is wake-word detection for a local voice assistant. Not sure what exactly "great" is as I don't benchmark unless someone's paying me, but for my personal use case, good enough precision/recall that it doesn't annoy me!</p>
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<p>Shut up and take my money.</p>
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<p>“We'll send only a brain"</p>
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<p>Yeah, I don't understand why they made that announcement then didn't actually release it. All of the heat, none of the archival benefit...</p>
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<p>What's Signal's planned response to this? Or what about older tools like GnuPG or OMEMO for XMPP?</p>
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<p>Is Graphene vulnerable to these exploits?</p>
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<p><a href="https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2026-42945" rel="nofollow">https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2026-42945</a></p>
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<p>I'm disappointed that sexysheep.com is just a domain parking page. I'm not sure what I was hoping for, but I think that's the worst possible outcome.</p>
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