<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: antves</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=antves</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 14:55:45 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=antves" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by antves in "Show HN: Distilling DeepSeek into GPT-OSS doesn't transfer censorship. Try it"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>It is surprisingly not obvious, neural nets are weird just like brains<p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10319-8" rel="nofollow">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10319-8</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2026 00:19:49 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49117583</link><dc:creator>antves</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49117583</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49117583</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by antves in "Computer Use is 45x more expensive than structured APIs"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>I think one main point is that not all "computer use" is the same, the harness and agentic experience matters a lot. A poorly designed API experience can actually be _less_ efficient than a well designed browser or computer use experience<p>In particular, the vision-based approach used in the evaluation has clear limitations with regard to efficiency due to its nature (small observation window, heterogeneous modality)<p>At Smooth we use an hybrid DOM/vision approach and we index very strongly on small models. An interesting fact is that UIs are generally designed to minimize ambiguity and supply all and only the necessary context as token-efficient as possible, and the UX is cabled up to abstract the APIs in well-understood interface patterns e.g. dropdowns or autocompletes. This makes navigation easier and that's why small models can do it, which is another dimension that must be considered<p>We typically recommend using APIs/MCP where available and well designed, but it's genuinely surprising how token-efficient agentic browser navigation can actually be</p>
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<p>totally agree on the interface.<p>I agree that there is communication overhead between the agents, although so far it looks like they can communicate very effectively and efficiently. We’re also working on efficient ways to transfer more contextual information</p>
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<p>I think our main differentiator is that we have been building browser agents for over a year and our technology is today 5x faster and 7x cheaper than browser-use, while also being significantly more reliable</p>
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<p>definitely only your own traffic! will add to the docs for ease of mind</p>
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<p>we benchmarked on webvoyager and have a few more benchmarks coming up (see <a href="https://docs.smooth.sh/performance">https://docs.smooth.sh/performance</a>), we’ll be publishing the full results shortly<p>we run headful browsers with a fingerprinting that is as stealth as possible and on top of that we can use your ip<p>anecdotally, making all requests originate from your own residential address has been a major success compared to other cloud-only solutions<p>it will be interesting to see how this will play out, having to “hide the agent” feels like a temporary work around until society accepts that agents actually do exist</p>
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<p>it's interesting to see how things will play out, but I really believe that doing Claude Code (maybe with Opus 4.6) + click tool + move_mouse tool + snapshot page tool + another 114 more tools is definitely not the best approach<p>the main issue with this interface is that the commands are too low-level and that there is no way of controlling the context over time<p>once a snapshot is added to the context those tokens will take up very precious context window space, leading to context rot, higher cost, and higher latency<p>that's why agents need to use very large models for these kind of systems to work and, unfortunately, even then they're very slow, expensive, and less reliable than using a purpose-made system<p>I wonder if a standardized interface will organically emerge over time. At the moment SKILL.md + CLI seem to be the most broadly adopted interface - even more than MCP maybe</p>
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<p>ah fair point! the tunnel is peer-to-peer so it doesn't add too much overhead, but you can't really beat localhost on latency<p>I'd be curious to try and see if practically the difference is so little that it doesn't matter</p>
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<p>the Claude --chrome command has a few limitations:<p>1. it exposes low-level tools which make your agent interact directly with the browser which is extremely slow, VERY expensive, and less effective as the agent ends up dealing with UI mechanics instead of thinking about the higher-level goal/intents<p>2. it makes Claude operate the browser via screenshots and coordinates-based interaction, which does not work for tasks like data extraction where it needs to be able to attend to the whole page - the agent needs to repeatedly scroll and read one little screenshot at the time and it often misses critical context outside of the viewport. It also makes the task more difficult as the model has to figure out both what to do and how to do it, which means that you need to use larger models to make this paradigm actually work<p>3. because it uses your local browser, it also means that it has full access to your authenticated accounts by default which might not be ideal in a world where prompt-injections are only getting started<p>if you actively use the --chrome command we'd love to hear your experience!</p>
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<p>thanks! it can actually test apps running on your localhost with our tunneling feature (<a href="https://docs.smooth.sh/features/use-my-ip">https://docs.smooth.sh/features/use-my-ip</a>)<p>you should be able to tell it to go to your localhost address and it should be able to navigate to your local app from the remote browser<p>let us know if you have any questions!</p>
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<p>indeed! there is no reason why tooling for AI agents shouldn't use AI when tooling for humans is shifting towards AI</p>
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<p>yes that's right! I think this might be the way AI agents adoption plays out more broadly<p>Agents that start using subagents rather than humans using the subagents directly</p>
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<p>typo: what to do as opposed to how to do it</p>
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<p>Thanks for asking! We developed our browser agent that uses a mix of custom and frontier models for different parts of the system</p>
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<p>Our website does not dive as deep as the docs on the Smooth CLI yet</p>
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<p>would love to hear what pricing model would work best for you<p>our current model is a subscription plan that determines the number of browsers available + credits top-ups for increased usage</p>
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<p>I agree it would be really cool to run this locally, it's definitely something on our radars</p>
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<p>I believe this shift will actually happen organically over time<p>there will be demand for AI-first online services as people continue to delegate more and more tasks to agents and this will drive implementation</p>
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<p>have you tried any other AI browser automation tools? we would be curious to hear about your use cases because the use cases we have been working on with our customers involve scenarios where traditional playwright automations are not viable, e.g. they operate on net new websites and net new tasks for each execution</p>
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<p>That's a great point, we'll publish everything on our docs as soon as possible</p>
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