I'm just pulling the most prominent ones at my nearest gas station:

* Celsius: 200mg

* Alani Nu: 200mg

* Rockstar: 160mg

* Monster: 160mg

* Reign: 300mg

* Bang: 300mg

* Red Bull: 80mg

* Ghost: 200mg

* C4: 200mg

* NOS: 160mg

A standard soda can is about 35mg caffeine.

I do not think it's a myth to claim that on average, energy drinks have a high amount of caffeine.

> so I think protecting his feelings is not necessary.

No, just the barrage of completely lacking-of-empathy responders need your white-knighting. It’s a good thing you’re here for them.

I just don't understand people placing the blame on you when it should be on your company. Most people in the world are just trying to keep their job - you did it. It wasn't something illegal, it was something that if you didn't do, you would have risked your job and then someone else would have done it anyway.

Conflating this with gambling is dishonest. I'll grant you that I've always viewed the way FSA is structured is weird, but this is absolutely not gambling unless you're completely unaware.

If you have any regular, annual medical expenses that are out of pocket, or plan to purchase any of the very wide variety of items that are eligible for FSA (e.g. gym equipment, many foods, glasses, contacts, etc. that might not be fully covered), then you can estimate this with exceptional accuracy.

This is not the same as playing roulette.

The start of this thread was primarily people saying they were taking their money elsewhere - and then suggesting Proton, whose CEO was in the hot seat for praising the Republican party. It makes no sense to have such a violent reaction to something like this and not consider that competitors could be similar.

The reality is that in general, your money is always going to somebody you don't want it to go to.

People are surprised that a privacy-oriented businessman is right-wing is very strange.

"Millions" in the title is also misleading in this context - it's millions in Swedish Kronor, which is roughly $500K USD. A lot, but the title seems intentionally misleading.

I've also never really understood the cycle of boycotting things because you don't like how an individual spends their own money. Almost every company will employ people who have values you severely disagree with, and put money toward those causes. And turning to Proton as the alternative is... a choice?

What?

I don't strive for 996. Is this really the bar we want to meet?

Simple - you make them work 2x, 5x, or 10x more hours.

1. There are many interactions I just could not get to work. I may have done something wrong, but in general, I have the perspective that most products should "just work" if it's as simple as clicking a button or directing something. In this case, I'm tangibly talking about the Browser feature, and the Canvas feature. In my account, I tried many times to have OpenClaw use the Browser to access a website and send me a screenshot, and it regularly reported the Browser was inaccessible, even though I had enabled it via Klaus UI. Secondly, I asked it to write certain reports to the Canvas as HTML pages that I could review - the entries would show up as files I could click on, but the files themselves were always empty. 2. OpenClaw with tokens is insanely expensive - I blew through the $15 tokens in a matter of a day.

For the first, my guess is I misconfigured something, but it's really difficult to identify what is wrong. My expectation was that I could prompt via Telegram to configure anything and everything, but some link was missing. Although I am a technical person, my expectation was that I would not need to muck around via `ssh` to figure out where my files ended up.

For the latter - and more broadly - OpenClaw is not well understood for most, and I think they will be caught off guard just how expensive it is. $15 in tokens is not a lot with how inefficient OpenClaw can be. My suggestion would be:

1. Pre-configure OpenClaw with already extremely memory-efficient rules and skills. 2. Provide clear guidance/documentation on ideal agent setup with different models as necessary. I think OpenRouter attempts to achieve this pretty well, but you are providing a layer on top of OpenRouter that may not be obvious to less-well-versed people. 3. Batteries-included options should "just work" - I felt I wasted a lot of tokens just figuring out how to get the thing to do simple tasks for me.

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A lot of the notes I made are less about your product and what you've achieved, and more to do with OpenClaw. However, you've achieved one major milestone - which is the one-click setup of OpenClaw. But if your target demographic is the less technically inclined folks that want to be able to play with the bleeding edge of AI practices, I think your platform needs to guide users to how to actually use this thing, and become useful right away.

It may even be beneficial to showcase extremely clear workflows for users to get started and sell why they even want OpenClaw.

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Anyway, kudos on the release! It is not easy to ship and you've done that hard bit! I bid you good luck on the next phase!

* Conserve power as much as possible, to "stay alive".

* Optimize for power retention

Why would it be further interested in generating capital or governing others, though?