<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: arutar</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=arutar</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 00:19:05 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=arutar" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by arutar in "The Heilbronn Problem"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Maybe here are the easiest ones to state:<p>1. One can ask the same problem but for k-gons instead of triangles.<p>2. Given a set of point-line pairs (x1, l1), ..., (xn, ln) [[that is, each xj lies in the line lj]], consider the smallest distance between some xi and lj where i != j. Then as in Heilbronn's problem we want configurations so that this smallest distance is as large as possible.<p>In 2 here we already see a key feature of 'incidence lower bounds' problems: we need to assume some initial 'trivial incidences' for the problem to make sense at all. If we didn't require them; we could put all the points at the top, and the lines at the bottom, and call it a day! The 'trivial incidences' force the points and lines to be spatially mixed; then we want to find a 'non-trivial incidence'.<p>Asymptotics for problem 1 are very open (seems decently harder than Heilbronn) but problem 2 was recently solved by Cosmin [1]<p>Actually, information about (2) immediately gives you something about the Heilbronn problem: take your n points, and use them to define n/2 lines. This gives a family of n/2 points and n/2 lines (forgetting about the 'other' point on each line). Apply the best answer you get to (2), to find a point of distance r to some line. Since that line originally came from two other points, you get a triangle of area ~ r. This is where the best known asymptotics for Heilbronn's problem come from.<p>[1] <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2607.20422" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/pdf/2607.20422</a></p>
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<p>It's cool to see a piece of mathematics that I am personally very interested in show up on HN!<p>From a pure mathematics standpoint, I am most interested in asymptotics (what happens as n becomes very large).<p>Some tidbits which might be interesting:<p>* Here's an argument saying there must always be a triangle of area less than about 1/n. Divide the unit square into n/3 vertical strips. By the pigeonhole principle one of the strips must contain three points. The strip has area about 1/n, so the triangle also has area at most 1/n.<p>* In contrast, the best known lower bound is something like (log n)/n^2 - very far from 1/n.<p>* After quite a bit of work by a number of authors,  Komlós, Pintz & Szemerédi proved in 1981 an upper bound essentially of the form n^(-8/7), still quite far from the n^2 lower bound!<p>* Remarkably, there was no progress for over 40 years, until a few years ago two PhD students at MIT (Alex Cohen and Dima Zakharov) along with Cosmin Pohoata beat this upper bound by some small factor, and then later improved it to n^(-7/6) a year or so later. (See [1] for an overview of their work.)<p>* This problem is related to a more general family of incidence geometry problems called 'lower bounds for incidences': given some collection of geometric objects (say, points and lines), under what conditions can we guarantee that there are in fact more 'almost incidences' than we originally expect?<p>[1] <a href="https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-biggest-smallest-triangle-just-got-smaller-20230908/" rel="nofollow">https://www.quantamagazine.org/the-biggest-smallest-triangle...</a></p>
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<p>Here is some (adjacent, but relevant) context, which has been posted elsewhere but I think is worthwhile to mention again here:<p><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/117237320796901560" rel="nofollow">https://mathstodon.xyz/@tao/117237320796901560</a><p>Especially in recent years the mathematics community has worked very much in good faith, and a lot of effort is spent trying to give appropriate credit for ideas. Even when ideas are discovered in parallel if it turns out that previous work contained the same essential idea it is by and far regarded as best practice to give priority in this case. The point, in good academic practice, is to maintain the health of the practice at large.<p>As Terence Tao explains in that post, the goal of mathematics is not only to solve big problems. And, even if one were very single-mindedly focused on solving big problems, it is still (in the long term) better to maintain the health of the community at large so that problems which are out of reach at the moment may be in reach again in the future. Good academic practice is one part of this culture.</p>
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<p>Article URL: <a href="https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-52/reviews/the-martian-ideology/">https://www.nplusonemag.com/issue-52/reviews/the-martian-ideology/</a></p>
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<p>I think Zotero is an excellent tool and I used it for a long time. However, like the author, I also felt that Zotero was not the ideal tool for me. But a straight BibTeX file is also rather unwieldy. Essentially, bibliographic data has provenance (say, a DOI identifier), and it is very useful to keep track of this in a structured way.<p>A friend and I have been working (slowly, over the past few years, since we are both academics) on an abstraction layer over BibTeX called Autobib: <a href="https://github.com/autobib/autobib" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/autobib/autobib</a><p>Broadly speaking, Autobib is a CLI around SQLite database of BibTeX records. But in addition to plain BibTeX, Autobib is aware of 'external data providers' (like DOI, MathSciNet, OpenLibrary, arXiv, zbMath, etc.) and will automatically retrieve data bibliographic data from these data providers. The provenance of the data is stored alongside the record itself, and this can be used to retrieve updates, prevent duplication of data, etc.<p>The killer feature is: if you have a file (say `file.tex`) and the keys are in a format which Autobib can automatically recognize (say, you use citation keys like `doi:my/weird/doi`, and there is support for custom formats and aliases) you can run `autobib source file.tex` and it will write to standard output a sorted BibTeX bibliography for your file. This lets you trivially maintain a per-project bibliography which you can check into source control locally and which exactly corresponds to the paper itself.<p>But otherwise, Autobib is "just a wrapper over a BibTeX bibliography"! When you edit an existing record, you are just editing a BibTeX record. There is integrated search, directly on the BibTeX fields themselves.<p>There are some extra features, like support for attachments, fuzzy search, undo-tree support, headless edit, auto-normalization, soft deletion, replacement, merging, etc. The database format is relatively simple and open (currently not particularly well documented, but this will change when it stabilizes) to allow introspection by other tools.<p>The tool also strives to play nicely with other tools (structured output, composable, etc.)</p>
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<p>Thanks for sharing such an entertaining problem!<p>Bonus problem: find an arrangement of 4 queens on the board such that:<p>1. There is exactly 1 square on which a bishop can be placed, such that the 4 queens and the bishop attack all unoccupied squares<p>AND<p>2. There is exactly 1 square on which a rook can be placed, such that the 4 queens and the rook attack all unoccupied squares<p>Amazingly, modulo rotation / reflection, this problem has exactly 1 solution.</p>
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<p>Unfortunately there are none</p>
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<p>More fun facts:<p>After identifying solutions up to rotation and reflection there are only 49 solutions. No solutions have rotational symmetry, and there is exactly one solution with reflection symmetry (already mentioned by an earlier commenter).<p>Out of the 49 solution classes, there are 18 distinct queen layouts. The layouts have between 1 and 5 ways to place the bishop to complete the solution. Interestingly, there is exactly one queen layout (up to rotation / reflection) for which there are exactly 2 ways to place the bishop to complete the puzzle.</p>
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<p>Once one exists the realm of differentiable manifolds, it is not really reasonable to talk about a single notion of 'dimension'.<p>Topological dimension is indeed something one can define: e.g. the Koch snowflake [1] or the graph of the Weierstrass function [2] have topological dimension 1. Actually, the first is homeomorphic to the unit circle and the second is homeomorphic to real line. It's great if you are doing topology and you only care about how things look like up to homeomorphism. But if you have metric structure (and you care about it), it is not so useful.<p>Minkowski dimension is certainly easy to define but it has some problems: sets which are "very small" (like a sequence `1/log(n)`) can have Minkowski dimension 1. The article has a minor technical oversight: the limit certainly does not need to exist. Minkowski defined it as the limit supremum of the sequence (actually, he defined it in terms of the decay rate of the size of the neighbourhood of the set, but this is equivalent). But one could analogously define a "lower" variant by taking the limit infimum instead.<p>Hausdorff dimension is not discussed in this article, but it is probably the most "robust" notion of dimension one can define. The Hausdorff dimension of any sequence is 0. But even then, lots of sets with Hausdorff dimension 1 can be very small, like the fat Cantor set which has dimension 1 but has length 0 [3]. So this 'dimension' does not necessarily line up with the intuition for "1-dimensional" in esoteric circumstances.<p>But even Hausdorff / Minkowski dimension does not capture the essence of some matters. For example, one might be interested in when a certain space can be mapped into another space without too much distortion (let's say by a map which respects the metric, like a bi-Lipschitz map). It can easily happen that a set has small (finite) Hausdorff or Minkowski dimension, but it cannot be embedded in a non-distorting way in <i>any</i> finite dimensional Euclidean space. This happens for instance with the real Heisenberg group [4]. If you are interested in this type problem then you want something like Assouad dimension [5].<p>The moral of the story is: the correct notion of dimension depends critically on what you want to do with your notion of 'dimension'. For sets which are very nice (smooth manifolds) all "reasonable" notions of dimension will coincide with what you expect; but beyond this there is an infinite zoo of ways to define dimension which are all reasonable in various ways, but capture genuinely different notions of 'size'.<p>[1]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_snowflake" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_snowflake</a><p>[2]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_function" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_function</a><p>[3]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Volterra%E2%80%93Cantor_set" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith%E2%80%93Volterra%E2%80%9...</a><p>[4]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg_group" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenberg_group</a><p>[5]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assouad_dimension" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assouad_dimension</a></p>
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<p>Here's another way that I like to think about it.<p>First, forget briefly about the Hilbert curve and just think about the unit square [0,1]^2.<p>If you take any point (x,y) in the unit square, we can associate x and y with binary coordinates, say x = 0.a1a2a3... and y = 0.b1b2b3... Then we can just define a new number z with binary representation 0.a1b1a2b2a3b3... And going the other way, given z in [0,1], we can take the 'even' binary coordinates to get x, and the 'odd' binary digits to get y.<p>The problem with this specific mapping is that the function is not continuous. But if you are a bit more careful:<p>1. The first digit says "left half vs right half"<p>2. The second digit says "top half vs bottom half" (of the rectangle from 1)<p>3. The third digit says "left half vs right half" (of the square from 2)<p>etc.<p>and then if two numbers share the first n binary digits (i.e. your points are close on the real line) then the corresponding points in the plane will also be quite close together (they are inside the same square / rectangle with side length like 2^(-n/2) at step n).<p>The "reason" why the dimension is different is precisely because of the "n/2": for every n digits of precision you have in the number z, you only get n/2 digits of precision for each of (x, y).<p>This is a bit imprecise because of issues with non-unique binary representation but (at least for me) it captures the spirit of why this should work!</p>
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<p>This is a very phenomenal result and everyone in the field is excited about this! Josh and Hong both gave talks about this at a conference 2 weeks ago in Berkeley, and the videos are online: [1] [2]. Josh's talk (at least from my perspective of someone who is adjacent to this field) is quite approachable, whereas Hong talks more about the induction scheme on Guth's grains decomposition which is quite a bit more technical.<p>I visited Josh at UBC last year around this time and I recall asking him if he thought Kakeya in dimension 3 would be solved soon. I remember that he believed it would be (though perhaps he was worried by someone other than Hong and himself). In the end they were able to complete the proof themselves.<p>Hong is probably quite a serious candidate for the fields medal because of this. She has already made impressive progress on problems in harmonic analysis and geometric measure theory and she is one of few people has a firm foothold in both fields at the same time.<p>The quanta article talks about a 'tower of conjectures' in harmonic analysis; at the top of the tower is the so-called "local smoothing conjecture" (a conjecture about how much waves, such as 'idealized' sound waves, can amplify from some initial configuration when averaged over time). A Kakeya set is a certain type of geometric obstruction to local smoothing; resolving the full conjecture also requires handling so-called 'oscillatory' obstructions. In dimension 2 + 1 (2 spatial and 1 time dimension) the local smoothing was only recently resolved (also by Hong and co-authors [3]); even though the corresponding result for Kakeya sets in dimension 2 has been known for over 40 years.<p>[1] <a href="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1062254156" rel="nofollow">https://player.vimeo.com/video/1062254156</a><p>[2] <a href="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1063428579" rel="nofollow">https://player.vimeo.com/video/1063428579</a><p>[3] <a href="https://annals.math.princeton.edu/2020/192-2/p06" rel="nofollow">https://annals.math.princeton.edu/2020/192-2/p06</a></p>
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<p>This is a reasonable candidate for a notion of a "Fractal" but these days it is generally accepted that there is no universal definition.<p>For instance, this definition would not include objects such as the Devil's staircase [1] or more generally images of the unit interval under a continuous monotonically increasing function.<p>Some more exposition about attempts to rigorously define the notion of a fractal can be find in the introduction to Kenneth Falconer's book [2]<p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_function" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor_function</a><p>[2] <a href="https://zbmath.org/1285.28011" rel="nofollow">https://zbmath.org/1285.28011</a><p>Edit: Fixed incorrect zbmath link.</p>
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<p>That's a fair point, more precise phrasing would be "If you prefer a command-line interface, ..." which should be sufficiently vague to make almost everybody happy.</p>
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<p>It’s cool to see this on HN.<p>I originally wrote this article for a “microcourse” I ran at the University of St Andrews—aimed at a non-tech background—on building a personal webpage. Especially in mathematics, having a personal site (that you control) to host research and other information is pretty invaluable!<p>Older personal math sites tend to have a very particular “historic” feel. While I personally have a lot of nostalgia for the look, I also think it’s good to take advantage of some of the newer tools that are available today!</p>
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<p>You're absolutely correct---countable sets have probability zero (with probability 1 a uniformly random number in [0,1] will irrational), and it would not be contradictory for all algebraic numbers to be non-normal. I am pretty sure it is unknown if there exist irrational algebraic normal numbers, even non-constructively.<p>One reason for believing that irrational algebraics, or pi, or e are normal, is a crude heuristic which is that "there is nothing special about base b". You can also take a computer and compute digit frequencies up to some very large precision, and see what happens. Generally speaking, it feels like "naturally defined numbers" should be normal unless there is a good reason for them not to be (and this is entirely independent of the fact that uniformly random numbers are normal). Proving this is a very different matter!</p>
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<p>Results like this are a lot of fun, and like many a reasonable number of cool results in number theory, are "surprisingly easy". There's a proof only using two ideas:<p>1) Birkhoff ergodic theorem, which states for a "nice" dynamical system, the probability that certain events occur can be described explicitly by an invariant distribution (see [1]), and<p>2) Continued fractions have an associated "nice" dynamical system (the Gauss map) which has an explicit probability distribution that is not too challenging to compute.<p>Of course, writing this argument out takes a bit of work [2].<p>In fact, the argument is structured in the exact same way as the fact that uniformly randomly chosen numbers in [0,1] are normal (i.e. the digit frequencies in a base-b expansion are all 1/b).<p>However, proving such results about _specific_ numbers is notoriously hard [3]. As far as I am aware, there has not been a single irrational algebraic number proven to be normal. Normality of well-known constants like pi and e is also an open problem! I would not be surprised if proving distributional results for continued fraction expansions of pi is also very hard.<p>[1]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergodic_theory#Ergodic_theorems" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergodic_theory#Ergodic_theorem...</a><p>[2]: <a href="http://www.geometrie.tugraz.at/karpenkov/cf2011/cf2011s_7.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.geometrie.tugraz.at/karpenkov/cf2011/cf2011s_7.pd...</a><p>[3]: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number#Properties_and_examples" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number#Properties_and_e...</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://rutar.org" rel="nofollow">https://rutar.org</a><p>A site to host my research, and some miscellaneous blog posts. I also have a recipes site:<p><a href="https://food.rutar.org" rel="nofollow">https://food.rutar.org</a><p>They're all made using Zola, "compiled" to HTML + CSS.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure why this is not mentioned in the article, but there is nothing special about circles and squares (or 2 dimensions, for that matter). If anything, phrasing it like this gives the (misleading) impression that somehow features of squares and circles are important!<p>The authors proved [1, Thm. 1.3] that given any two sets in R^d with equal non-zero measure and boundaries that are "not too horrible" (i.e. box / Minkowski dimensions of their boundaries less than d), one can cut one of the sets into finitely many Borel pieces and rearrange them (i.e. apply isometries in R^d) to obtain the other set.<p>You can also guarantee that the pieces have positive measure under a mild technical assumption.<p>[1] <a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2202.01412.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/pdf/2202.01412.pdf</a></p>
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<p>Would you be able to elaborate a bit what you mean here? There is no version of Banach-Tarski in two dimensions - you can prove that there exists a finitely additive set function which is invariant under isometries.</p>
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<p>This is fair - there are a decent number of details omitted here. However, a lot of the details are hidden inside the proof that an IFS has a unique fixed point. At least to me, this "proof" is nice because it converts a non-obvious procedure (taking midpoints) into a "standard" procedure (the IFS construction).<p>A sketch of the argument in the IFS goes like this: consider the set of maps {f1, f2, f3} as acting on compact subsets of R^2 by the action F -> f1(F) U f2(F) U f3(F). Since the maps fi are continuous, the image is a compact set. But one can also prove that this action is a contraction mapping on the space of compact subsets of R^2 equipped with Hausdorff metric [1], and appealing to the Banach fixed point theorem [2],<p>(1) there is a unique compact set K fixed by this action, and<p>(2) the images of F converge "geometrically fast" to the set K<p>In other words, there is some constant 0 < r < 1 such that after k steps of this algorithm (not the random process), the distance from the k^th approximation to the Sierpinsky triangle is at most r^k<p>Actual convergence rates of the corresponding random process are more complicated. One of my colleagues recently wrote a paper on convergence rates of the "chaos game" (essentially what this is doing), and one can get really sharp information on how fast the random process converges [3]. However, this uses some non-trivial covering time theory for Markov processes. It's not too complex to follow, but definitely way more detail than I can write up in this note here.<p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausdorff_distance" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hausdorff_distance</a><p>[2] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach_fixed-point_theorem" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach_fixed-point_theorem</a><p>[3] <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.11517" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2007.11517</a><p>Edit: To see that the points converge to the Sierpinsky triangle (with no quantitative information) is a "bit less challenging" (i.e. within the realm of "standard" material - not necessarily easier!) - you can essentially reduce this problem to an application of the Birkhoff ergodic theorem [4]. Firstly, we can consider this process as a random map<p>pi: {1,2,3}^{\mathbb{N}} -> R^2<p>which is defined by taking finite subsequences (i1, i2, ..., ik) and mapping them to the images fi1(fi2( ... (fik(x_0))), and taking the limit in k, for some fixed starting point x0.<p>Then the "apply map fi" can be interpreted as looking at pi(sigma(i1,i2,...)) where sigma is the left-shift map sigma(i1, i2, ...) = (i2, i3, ...). But the shift map plays very nicely with the measure on the sequence space (the Bernoulli measure), in the sense that the Birkhoff ergodic theorem can be applied. This gives that for "typical" sequences of random function applications, this process will converge to the Sierpinsky triangle.<p>Here's another way to see it: let's say I apply maps fi1, fi2, ..., fik to my starting point x0. Then if we code the "level k" approximations to the Sierpinsky triangle in the same way [triangle (i1, ..., ik) = fi1(...(fik(initial triangle)))], the image of the point x0 will lie in triangle (i1, ..., ik). But these triangles, for large k, approximate the Sierpinsky triangle. Some more argumentation is required to deal with the case when the starting point does not sit in the Sierpinsky triangle, but this isn't a problem because of the fast convergence result explained above (if you wait a long time, all the points will be "very close"). The above ergodic theory argument is just showing that every possible finite subsequence will show up for "typical" random function applications.<p>[4] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergodic_theory" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergodic_theory</a></p>
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