- protein: tofu, gluten, plants protein extract, lentils, chickpeas, beans, chia seeds, mixed squash seeds...
   - lipid: various vegetable oils
   - sulphurous aroma: Kala namak salt, also very popular for vegan scrambled eggs

The tool OP developed is precisely perfect for this king of calcul. However sometimes alternatives aren't based on the exact micro and macro reproduction but on the final result: banana is great for vegan pancakes but lacks protein. It's probably it's starch and fibers that help getting the texture right.

By the way my favorite pancakes are made with tofu and/or silken tofu.

The effect on physical and psychic health largely outweighs (sometimes to x30) the risk of accidents and pollution disease.

(2012, french) https://www.ors-idf.org/nos-travaux/publications/les-benefic...

edit: I saw your other comment, if you want to give more information that would be helpful, thanks. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48346947#48347768

Avoiding the ice is a great advice indeed, with or without those tires.

These tips gots me friends and girlfriends, one of her lasted 11years and still counting. Before reading it I'd describe myself 95% asocial + 5% weirdly social, with mostly no relationships.

These book really deeply changed me and oh boy I'm far from a salesman.

Your mom and robotic salesman obviously aren't good exemple to follow and that's a great start you noticed it. Get courage, one week of reading and I promise you you'll be changed, my friend.

But if cheakpeas your only food source, 7/8 seems achievable. Ask the "carnivorses" that says plant left them hungry :-p

You still choose a frame (eg: "killing any animal is wrong"), then show that frame is irrational and deduct that the while group is wrong. Classical strawmaning, although I'm sure that's not your intent. "Animals needing to die" as a practical truth is not a problem for vegans, you're arguing alone here. However many people thinks suffering is not desirable and act accordingly to minimise it. You're free to critic though.

I understand better your second explication: there's not more absolute anti-specism than absolute freedom of speech. I find more interesting the "All models are wrong, but some are useful" perspective as it helps interacting with the world, but in a theorical land you're probably right.

If you haven't read it and want to learn more, a good one is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Liberation_(book)

> The random-effects model demonstrated a significant inverse association between plant-based dietary patterns and CRC risk (hazard ratio [HR], 0.91 [95% CI, 0.85–0.97])

But as you guessed it varies between healthy and un-heatly diets:

> This protective association was strengthened when the definition of plant based patterns specifically emphasized the inclusion of healthy plant foods

However those un-healty foods are not restricted to plant-based meal (evidence: any supermarket shelf or snack restaurant), and lentils, tofu or seeds are as much -or more- likely to be found in a long term vegan dish than an impossible burger. As you noted it's "Not just vegan brands, but overall". For the mayo I recommend tahini instead (way more tasty) or just olive oil but if you really need it:

  - ~2/3 sunflower oil
  - ~1/3 soy milk (with no additive ;-) )
  - a bit of citrus juice
  - a pinch of salt
  
  -> Blend high speed to emulsify
  -> For a thicker texture you may use some silken tofu

1 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1091255X2...

   1. antispeciesism = rejecting discrimination based solely on species membership.
   2. all living beings having exactly the same moral value.

And the “insects die for carrots” point is not really a problem specific to veganism, since animal agriculture typically requires even more crops, land use, and indirect animal deaths. Also there's vegans that are speciesists and anti-speciesists that aren't vegan. Those concepts intersects but are not strictly equal.

I'm not sure to understand your other points but strongly agree communication helps to grow ethics and gain empathy. However it's not absolutely required as seen with the exemples of comas, mute, newborn, or as you mentioned someone of a different culture or language. I hardly understand how is it "impossible for [the dogs] to make their preferences known" especially in the situation of being slapped. Perhaps I missed you point because that contradict all my interaction with dogs and gods's owners.

Why "cook”? In a hurry I grab a can of bean, a carrot, a branch of celery, some rye bred and a square of tofu. No prep or tooling except a spoon for the beans.

Something hot at the snack? Grab a veggie pad thaï, veggie pizza, veggie burger (with actual veggies), daal with veggies…

One can probably can have a better communication with, say a dog, than a sever autist or someone in the state of deep coma.

We don’t apply our ethics based on the communication (or same-language ability) but instead on an arbitrary selection. That selection evolved recently to includes a wider set of humans (anti-racism and feminism). Antispecism is an interesting view as it state a the specie itself (humans /dogs/caw/cat/chicken…) isn’t a valid denominator to define what is ethic what isn’t.

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Bulgur is a staple in many regions. It's a groat so technically slightly precessed but many consider it whole.

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> Not only did they replace military mystery MRE meat with something more appealing to eat out of an envelope, but they were actually tasty

They seems to take the processing route indeed, which is usually more appreciated if you only account for taste: most people prefer cakes than wholemeal wheat.

> Gel/semi-solid formats, dry powder mixes, [and] sauce-style components [...] gel packs stuffed with fermented mushroom protein and other nutrients

However that's a preparation choice and not a (high-prot plant-based) necessity: - tempeh is already delicious and nutritive with two steps: cook + ferment - patties can be made with whole seeds like hemp or pumpkin - brewer yeast is cheap, tasty and it's just the leftover of the beer creation process.

Moreover I doubt meat-based MRE contains only meat: lack of fibers would lead to constipation which is not great on the battelfield.

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