And if they do that, they're now becoming journalists or researchers.

(I know you likely know this, but just clarifying a bit for others to what I think the logic is)

Bald eagles indeed!

There are people which want the best we can do (eg, no Ng, coal, etc) in electricity generation. Sensible reductions, that sort of thing. Then there are those that just want no electricity to be used at all, ever, period.

They'll complain about hydroelectric(carbon in cement production), about things which can happen with nuclear(accidents), about birds in windmills, about the production methods of making solar panels, and so on. To such people, doing anything is bad for the environment, so therefore, every type of power generation is bad.

To listen to such people is, of course, madness, as is listening to all extremists. We should simply ignore them completely, but of course the news exists, fake protestors exist which are paid, and so on and so forth.

There was a lot of cartoon animation done by hand in the 1930. Frame by frame drawn, far superior to modern animation. However the styles are different, and some prefer one style of animation over another.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1q986...

I've just noticed in the 'full version' linked to in the reddit comments, it's a poorly done 480i -> 480p, and the interlace fields are reversed.

If you watch the panning in the original star-scape at the start of the video, you'll see it jittering back and forth as it pans. Sad. If properly converted to 480p, that scene would be super-smooth too.

(It's less apparent elsewhere, unless there is side-scrolling)

These prior points of 'fighting' and 'violence' are so inconsequential, that they don't even impinge upon the historical narrative of most nations. People know about war, civil war, even the hippy protests half a century ago.

And in the end? In every single case? Nothing happened to realistically slow that change. It happened regardless.

One of the issues with such change, is that we live in a world with national borders. This leaves individuals in nations with two choices. Improve efficiency (by replacing humans with more efficient methods), or alternative? Companies with more efficient methods, in other countries, will drive your local companies out of business.

Which means you lose any tax revenue, resource extraction revenue, "head office" revenue, and on and on. And of course, whatever humans are level after the reorg, "management", well those jobs go to that other country too.

Literally if you win in terms of preventing change, you lose.

In the context of all of this, legitimate or not isn't really relevant. And fighting or not is in that same category. Nothing will stop the changes coming. Nothing.

If we were in the same room, you would hear a typically exceptionally optimistic person, speaking in a very sad voice.

In the future, there will be no more generalists with your capabilities. At all. No one will ever develop the skill. We're at the end of our career's lifetime. We're like the horse watching more and more cars appearing.

Within a generation, the coding languages we use today will all vanish, to be replaced with direct to metal methods, assembly, etc. The only reason C exists, is for humans. PHP, rust, python is for humans. There will be no more compilers. No more human-readable languages. No more scripting with readable code.

No more open or closed source.

Imagine taking every aspect of computing which is designed for humans to understand, and removing it, because it's redundant.

Now once removed, and once humans no longer understand on their own, imagine trying to build something independently? Imagine trying to bootstrap modern compute, without all the layers which came before?

My point is that soon, perhaps 20 years, most humans will be incapable of coding, developing, or working with compute in any way outside of an end-user role. Even those previously skilled, will now be looking at an entire kernel written in assembly.

And that's before new CPUs appear, with new assembly. New assembly, once again, not designed by or for humans to understand. And yes, current assembly is designed that way.

We are not simply looking at a bit of help here. We're looking at the entire end of every single computing job, ever. We're looking at the complete loss of control, of something which is the underpinning of our entire society. Every aspect of everything we have, runs on a chip now. Personal transport, everything in health care, everything in resource extraction, everything harvesting food through to delivery to table, all of it involves some aspect of compute.

And we soon will not comprehend nor create that underlying aspect of society.

I dunno. It all seems like the answer to the fermi paradox.

And the US elections in 2028? I can barely imagine.

And the massive problem is, most people I talk to still think what they see on youtube is real. But of course, people thought the TV show Survivor was real, too. It's not a new phenomenon.

But it is at crazy levels. I like your 'denial of service' designation, because even knowing the problem, maybe you can't find real info still.

No, I'm not saying that's why. I'm simply saying there is a difference between asking for 1 byte or 65k bytes of something. Even dd runs the same under Linux.

dd bs=10k count=1 is faster than bs=1 count=10k

I remember trying to recover some data from a spinning disk, and trying to slowly creep up on the data. So I wanted 1 byte per, I wanted it to nibble, until it hit whatever the errored part was. If I just grabbed the lot, it'd error out from the whole read.

Talk to news companies, which whether newspapers, magazines, radio or TV, are basically either literally gone, or a shadow of their former selves. The best way to compare this, as you say is to even larger constructs, to entire sectors of the economy.

Because you can harken this to desktop computers, or to the Internet. Sector after sector of people replaced, industries gone. Just the sheer amount of newsprint, recycled or not, which is now no longer manufactured affected an enormous amount of jobs. The entire forest industry, to sawmill, to shipping + printing and all the parts and maintenance and delivery and even the newstands which are basically now gone. Good for the environment or not, that's massive change.

I agree AI will do the very same. But it's not even really happening that much faster. We're 3 years in. It will take 10 to 20 years for it to play out.

But... back in 2008, would you have said the Internet was "bad" for humanity? No, you wouldn't. Back then, it was all about connecting people, it was about empowering people in totalitarian regimes, so they could connect and speak out. It was about old controls slipping, about people being able to speak directly to one another. Back then, 99.999% of people thought "awesome!".

And when I talk to the average Joe about AI today? I hear the same thing. Awesome!

The Internet has put countless people out of work. So has the computer. So has electricity. And machines. People have always complained. But if you're going to label AI companies as "They took my job!", then you'd better do the same for all those other industries. Otherwise?

It's a bit hypocritical.

The massed will still be able to access youtube, google. They won't be able to open random ports without proxies, and yes that means even online gaming is going to be controlled.

Giving access to 'citizens', with the current way the Internet operates, is absurd. One back door into a desktop, workstation, and 'validated citizens' are now 'hackers from where-ever'.

The world today is coding.

Everyone was forced to be exposed to it. To see it. Only after that happened, did they let users disable it.

It's effectively the equivalent of a spam campaign.

The criminal intent was giving somebody without a license, access to your gear to spoof you. If someone is too ignorant to not know what that means, then they would never acquire a license.

Nothing electronic will ever be secure, unless it is never, ever networked. Networking changes "touch physical thing" into "everyone on the planet plus their bots" can touch it.

Even if you pass harsh laws, you need to geogate network connections to only within that legal jurisdiction. Otherwise, it's pointless.

The real, true problem is anonymousness. I used to advocate for, now I'm done. The problems anonymity solve, are a gnat compared to the ones it creates.

I'm all for ipv8, but with a unique ID in the packet identifying the person directly.

I can't drive a car, own a gun, drive a boat, buy explosives, ply many trades, and 100 other things without a license. Maybe unrestricted internet access is in that category, and bad behaviour means it is revoked.

The Internet was a toy for a long time. Now it's the backbone of all commerce, industry, personal communication, with life threatening implications at times.

Play time is over.