btw, yes, we must not lose the skill of parenting. no any technology give it back to us.

is it http or gopher? :)

i heared the throat-cleaning "Negró" candy (marketed by a chimney sweeper man with soot-covered face) was usually which hurt English-speaking people's self-deprecating sensitivities.

where does this "perfect surveillance" idea come from? i teach my children how to get acquaintances; first in more direct, more supervised way, later let them more and more self-driving. like anything else in parenting, eg. bicycle. but i guess urbanization diminished that skill as well. no need for "perfect surveillance"; no parent wants it. it's not only easier to pass on basic principles, but also makes supervision gradually less neccessary over time.

> parents have in fact full control of snail mail

what? children using e-messaging can just as do snail mails completely on their own (of course they don´t but it's not about going back to analogue world but to form the digital world on the same principles). well, i can imagine in highly urbanized environment, where children are forbidden to go outside, but locked down together with family even making them more isolated, and trusting them "to the phone" to cope with the daily frustration, may easily lead to a situation where phone usage and e-messaging is completely unattended and undisclosed by and with parents, while posting an evelope is at a level of expertise for them. parents ability to be in control of e-messaging is as much as of snail mails.

  bind '"\C-x\C-u": undo'
  bind '"\C-_": undo'

shopt -s histverify

shopt -s histreedit

i dont know why they are not the default.

ok then make it work so. i feel it's like this thought flow:

- A causes B. and B is a problem.

- why not do C which causes not B.

- ahh, this wont work because it's A what is now, and C is not.

for the younger readers, yes, because in terminal echo mode, "backspacing" does not clear your terminal line buffer, those characters backspaced are already sent on the line. if you ever seen a misconfigured terminal, it hints what's going on, like:

user@host$ ls ~/^?^?^?^?^?~/a.out

^? is backspace's control char.

that is ssh watches what you type, not what is on the screen (terminal).

what if a web server on localhost happens to handle the request? why not request from a guaranteed unaccessable place like http://0.0.0.0/ or http://localhost:0/ (port zero)