to the TEXAS flag.

Just pointing out that the educational experience in Texas is not necessarily indicative of what the educational experience in the rest of the US is like.

No.

That’s what people like us on HN want. The people out in “Greater Userland” just want the black box to answer their questions. They could care less who is behind it. They don’t yet attach their black box to Amazon or Microsoft etc. And most won’t care enough to be inconvenienced even when they do make the connection. (As your competition argument implies.)

Heck, a lot haven’t even made the connection between the black box that gives them answers and data centers. They think, “ ChatGPT good” and at the same time think “data centers bad”.

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Any way though, I'm not really sure what your point is.

You quoted the part where I said what my point was?

Also hundreds of thousands of kids throughout parts of Central and South America.

And then of course, there are the millions throughout Africa.

Don't even get me started on all the future Iranian soldiers we're "training" right now.

And on and on and on.

Point being, a world where children are not made to suffer is a world that can't exist as long as humans are humans. Because adults, from the time before time, have made victims of kids.

I'm not sure it's able to be stopped? It seems part of the human condition.

Nice Jedi Hand Wave there.

That's the issue.

China invested in producing cheap energy. Most of the rest of the world did not.

At root, economics is about turning energy into goods and services. If the root industrial input of your competitor is cheaper than the cost of that same root industrial input to you, you're gonna need some incredible efficiencies elsewhere in that production pipeline to pull even.

At this point, the EU should be all about keeping the other major powers at arm's length, (economically and militarily), while pursuing renewable electrification with all deliberate speed.

That should be everyone else' strategy going forward as well by the way. Without cheap energy in the next global economic phase, your nation or bloc is dead in the water.

Do you think that maybe the reluctance to engage in large wars over the last 75 years is a benefit of the nuclear deterrent rather than political ideologies, or world view narratives, or hegemons?

Just kind of noticing that the 75 year figure you put out there kind of dovetails nicely with the existence of the nuclear deterrent in multiple global arsenals.

Obviously, I believe in the nuclear deterrent. Just wondering if there are other people out there willing to admit that it has been the best tool in mankind's toolbox for obliging people to talk to each other rather than go to war.

Holding only Yuan isn't necessarily going to save you from what's coming.

I completely understand the growing need to reduce the US dollar dependency. But these drawdowns should happen in an orderly fashion, with due consideration to addressing issues inherent in the old global financial order.

Clearly, in hindsight, being completely dependent on a single currency was one of those issues. It would be folly to replicate that environment with a different currency.

We know that we can use classical techniques, (non-AI), to psychologically condition humans. In the lightest case, we do it with advertising and social media. I'm absolutely certain that state-level adversaries use even more effective techniques to train and condition agents for fieldwork.

If your adversary knows you are more likely to rely on intelligence gathered in this fashion due to its reliability, they can definitely game that. Or rather, I guess, I would definitely game it if I knew the Russians had this kind of technology. So I don't know why they wouldn't be thinking along the same lines.

Basically, make them think their new technology is working.. until it counts. If it consistently works 99 out of 99 times. They'll have no reason to believe it's not working the 100th time.

But I guess if you were interrogating, maybe a pot dealer or spouse muderer or cheating husband or something, it might be valuable.

I'm unsure why people still believe we need the middle class to lead consumption for our economy to be "good"? At this point I feel like there is a lot of evidence out there directly contradicting that belief.

Do I think that's good for the nation? Not at all.

But I think fixing the fact that such an economy is terrible for the nation should be a separate discussion. Obviously we need to do something to support the 90%, and I support doing something in service of that goal. We should do it as soon as possible.

But I think people like Kashkari are thinking only about the economy itself. Which is kind of his job. It's the job of our elected officials to fix issues arising from the inability of the 90% to take advantage of the economy as well as they had historically.

Not that what you've written isn't the case. However, in addition to what you've written, (or probably even before what you've written), there's the fact that everything they're training on is stolen IP. Same with US LLM labs.

Let's not kid ourselve's about where the training data is coming from. They are not asking artists, writers, coders, content creators, etc etc etc for permission to use their creations.

Anthropic, Moonshot et al are doing incredible things, but we shouldn't gloss over the costs. Both present and future costs are kind of enormous.

For people at the top of the tech pyramid, I could totally see why they'd want to put an end to all this "Open Source LLM" stuff.

Buy extra hardrives. Borrow them. Do whatever you have to do.

But to paraphrase Éomer, don't trust to hope, it has abandoned these lands.

Then why is it a problem?

Another serious question.

Trying to get my head around what the root of the objection is here. There must be some fear, but if that fear is not a fear of being surpassed in the market, then what is the fear?

Serious question.

I'm from the US, and I think it's hilarious.

At the root of all you lament is not lack of trust, it is complacency. Decades long complacency.

Lack of trust is what our republic was founded on, and the entire reason it was structured the way it was. Our republic is specifically designed to function in a trust-free environment.

But no republic, nor any other organizational construct, no matter how well designed, will survive complacency.

The reason we need these and many more is that we don't trust each other. And it's wise that we don't.

This doesn't mean trust is bad, only that the founders, rightfully, knew that it leads to complacency.

What's landed us where we are is not a lack of trust. (We've lacked trust from day one, that's how we got the Constitution in the first place). What's landed us here is complacency.

It sucks. But there's just too much astro-turfing.

That's the rub. Today on the internet, no one can validate that there exists any "trustworthy search". If we don't control the servers and validate the software on it, then we are taking someone's word for it. Most often that someone is a marketing person at the hosting organization. Occasionally it's a random comment on the internet behind a pseudonym we know nothing about.

People are becoming more and more, justifiably, cynical. And it's good for society that they are.

Aren't these the same guys who won't even let us have Chinese cars?

I'm not as confident as you that they will keep allowing us access to technology as strategic as AI models out of China and elsewhere that undercut US models in the market.

To everyone reading, download open models from anywhere as soon as they are released. You really have no guarantee at all that access to those models won't be cut off in the future with the stroke of a President's pen. Those downloads are your insurance policy. You'll always be able to access whatever you've already downloaded.