<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: capnrefsmmat</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=capnrefsmmat</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2026 12:53:02 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=capnrefsmmat" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by capnrefsmmat in "Ask HN: Any nerds out there who've read a lot of research papers?"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>This is the most memorable abstract I've ever read.<p>Smith, Gordon C. S., and Jill P. Pell. 2003. “Parachute Use to Prevent Death and Major Trauma Related to Gravitational Challenge: Systematic Review of Randomised Controlled Trials.” BMJ 327 (7429): 1459–61. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.327.7429.1459" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.327.7429.1459</a>.<p>Objectives: To determine whether parachutes are effective in preventing major trauma related to gravitational challenge.<p>Design: Systematic review of randomised controlled trials.<p>Data sources: Medline, Web of Science, Embase, and the Cochrane Library databases; appropriate internet sites and citation lists.<p>Study selection: Studies showing the effects of using a parachute during free fall.<p>Main outcome measure: Death or major trauma, defined as an injury severity score > 15.<p>Results: We were unable to identify any randomised controlled trials of parachute intervention.<p>Conclusions: As with many interventions intended to prevent ill health, the effectiveness of parachutes has not been subjected to rigorous evaluation by using randomised controlled trials. Advocates of evidence based medicine have criticised the adoption of interventions evaluated by using only observational data. We think that everyone might benefit if the most radical protagonists of evidence based medicine organised and participated in a double blind, randomised, placebo controlled, crossover trial of the parachute.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2026 22:11:52 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49850610</link><dc:creator>capnrefsmmat</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49850610</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49850610</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by capnrefsmmat in "Claude's Load-Bearing Seams"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>It's not the training data. When we've tested the writing style of base models that have not gone through instruction tuning, they're much more human-like (<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107</a>). The style shift seems to come from something in the instruction-tuning process, so our current research problem is figuring out <i>what</i> in the process is doing it.</p>
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<p>More recent surveys have not contradicted the trend. For instance, in 2015,<p>> On average, students spent about 14 HPW preparing for class, 6 HPW working for pay, 12 HPW relaxing and socializing, 7 HPW participating in co-curricular activities and community service, 2 HPW caring for dependents, and 3 HPW commuting to campus. These activities accounted for a total weekly average of 45 HPW.<p><a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s11162-018-9497-z" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1007/s11162-018-9497-z</a><p>I've looked for other data and have not found anything to indicate the trend has reversed.</p>
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<p>> He seems quite out of touch with the level of economic hardship involved in being a student; a huge number of students already work a couple of jobs and are navigating small businesses, especially here in the UK where he apparently now lives. They aren't going to have enough "free time" to play with a "project" even if a bit more is made available by loosening the curriculum.<p>Empirically, student free time <i>grew</i> for much of the 20th century, and students spend much less time on school work than they used to. The decline is not explained by students spending more time on work outside of school; much of it has become leisure time.<p><a href="https://doi.org/10.1162/REST_a_00093" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1162/REST_a_00093</a> <a href="https://doi.org/10.1177/016146811011200908" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1177/016146811011200908</a><p>Now perhaps there has been a sharp change in the years since those two studies (there certainly has been a sharp change in UK tuition costs), but the point is that our intuitions about how hard students must have to work these days are usually wrong.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:35:00 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49432172</link><dc:creator>capnrefsmmat</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49432172</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49432172</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by capnrefsmmat in "Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>> Well, what do you expect? LLMs are trained on blithering, mostly from web sites. So you get blithering out.<p>I realize this isn't entirely serious, but I can't resist pointing out that this doesn't seem to be a good explanation for why LLMs write the way they do. When we've experimented with LLM writing style on open-weights models where you can get a base model (pretraining on text only) and an instruction-tuned variant (pretraining + post-training with RLHF and whatever other human-evaluated tasks), it's the instruction-tuned variant that shows the weird writing quirks. That is, the writing style is not because of the training texts, but because of whatever tasks the LLM companies do in instruction tuning. <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107</a><p>I'd speculate that this is partly impressed human preferences (the human raters unintentionally reward a particular writing style) and partly because of the chosen tasks: they're training the LLM to be good at, say, summarizing text, so it develops a style that's good at being informationally dense.<p>At any rate I've seen this same phenomenon with Llama and Gemma, and will be trying soon with Qwen. Unfortunately none of the commercial models lets you access the base model, as far as I know.</p>
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<p>Being invited to conference talks around the world is a completely normal part of being an active researcher in almost any academic field, so it doesn't register as pompous to other academics.</p>
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<p>From your link,<p>> TerraPower must still complete construction, submit an operating license application, and satisfy all applicable safety and regulatory requirements before loading fuel and beginning operations.</p>
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<p>Discussion is included in the Dangerous Goods Panel report, agenda item 4.3 (pages 39-41) and Appendix E (beginning page 89). <a href="https://www.icao.int/sites/default/files/DangerousGoods/DGP%20Meeting%20Documentation/DGP-30/4_Report/English/Final%20report.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.icao.int/sites/default/files/DangerousGoods/DGP%...</a><p>Paragraph 4.3.3:<p>> While data indicated that portable electronic devices were more often the cause of fire in aircraft cabins than power banks were, the latter were a significant concern due to their increased use and a prevalence of lower-quality products with defects or vulnerabilities that were more likely to lead to thermal events. Power banks were also not offered the same level of protection that batteries installed in portable electronic devices were provided. The amendments therefore focused on power banks.</p>
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<p>Several reasons:<p>1. The post mainly reiterates a single idea (Capsicum enumerates what the process can do, seccomp provides a configurable filter) in many different ways. There is not much actual depth, code samples notwithstanding. Nothing on why different designs were chosen, how easy each is to use, outcomes besides the Chrome example, etc.<p>2. There are a lot of AI writing tells, like staccato sentences, parallelism ("Same browser. Same threat model. Same problem."), pointless summary tables, "it's not X, it's Y" contradiction ("This is not a bug. It is the original Unix security model"), etc.<p>3. The author has roughly a blog post a day, all with similar style and on widely varied topics, and in the same writing style. Unless the author has deep expertise on a remarkably wide range of topics and spends all their time writing, these can't reflect deep insight or experience, but minimal editing of AI output.<p>So yes, it's pretty sloppy.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 16:28:06 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47311237</link><dc:creator>capnrefsmmat</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47311237</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47311237</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by capnrefsmmat in "LLM Writing Tropes.md"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Probably. One common feature of LLM output is grammatical features that indicate information density, like nominalizations, longer words, participial clauses, and so on. Perhaps training tasks that involve asking the LLMs for concise explanations or summaries encourage the use of these features to give denser answers.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the links. You may be interested in the other LLM writing style studies I've been collecting: <a href="https://www.refsmmat.com/notebooks/llm-style.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.refsmmat.com/notebooks/llm-style.html</a></p>
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<p>I've heard the Kenya and Nigeria story, but has anyone backed it up with quantitative evidence that the vocabulary LLMs overuse coincides with the vocabulary that is more common in Kenyan and Nigerian English than in American English?</p>
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<p>I work on research studying LLM writing styles, so I am going to have to steal this. I've seen plenty of lists of LLM style features, but this is the first one I noticed that mentions "tapestry", which we found is GPT-4o's second-most-overused word (after "camaraderie", for some reason).[1] We used a set of grammatical features in our initial style comparisons (like present participles, which GPT-4o loved so much that they were a pretty accurate classifier on their own), but it shouldn't be too hard to pattern-match some of these other features and quantify them.<p>If anyone who works on LLMs is reading, a question: When we've tried base models (no instruction tuning/RLHF, just text completion), they show far fewer stylistic anomalies like this. So it's not that the training data is weird. It's something in instruction-tuning that's doing it. Do you ask the human raters to evaluate style? Is there a rubric? Why is the instruction tuning pushing such a noticeable style shift?<p>[1] <a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2422455122" rel="nofollow">https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2422455122</a>, preprint at <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107</a>. Working on extending this to more recent models and other grammatical features now</p>
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<p>No, that doesn't really work so well. A lot of the LLM style hallmarks are still  present when you ask them to write in another style, so a good quantitative linguist can find them: <a href="https://hdsr.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/pyo0xs3k/release/2" rel="nofollow">https://hdsr.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/pyo0xs3k/release/2</a><p>That was with GPT4, but my own work with other LLMs show they have very distinctive styles even if you specifically prompt them with a chunk of human text to imitate. I think instruction-tuning with tasks like summarization predisposes them to certain grammatical structures, so their output is always more information-dense and formal than humans.</p>
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<p>The first sentence is a reference to prior research work that has found those productivity gains, not a summary of the experiment conducted in this paper.</p>
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<p>Most of the tedious formatting requirements do not match what the final typeset article looks like. The requirements are instead theoretically to benefit peer reviewers, e.g., by having double-spaced lines so they can write their comments on the paper copy that was mailed to them back when the submission guidelines were written in the 1950s.<p>The smarter journals have started accepting submissions in any format on the first round, and then only require enough formatting for the typesetters to do their job.</p>
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<p>Outside of disciplines that use LaTeX, the ability of authors to do typesetting is pretty limited. And there are other typesetting requirements that no consumer tool makes particularly easy; for instance, due to funding requirements, many journals deposit biomedical papers with PubMed Central, which wants them in JATS XML. So publishers have to prepare a structured XML version of papers.<p>Accessibility in PDFs is also very difficult. I'm not sure any publishers are yet meeting PDF/UA-2 requirements for tagged PDFs, which include things like embedding MathML representations of all mathematics so screenreaders can parse the math. LaTeX only supports this experimentally, and few other tools support it at all.</p>
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<p>It didn't "survey" devs. It paid them to complete real tasks while they were randomly assigned to use AI or not, and measured the actual time taken to complete the tasks vs. just the perception. It is much higher quality evidence than a convenience sample of developers who just report their perceptions.</p>
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<p>Sure, if you're learning to write and want lots of examples of a particular style, LLMs can generate that for you. Just don't assume that is a <i>normal</i> writing style, or that it matches a particular genre (say, workplace communication, or academic writing, or whatever).<p>Our experience (<a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107</a>) is that LLMs like GPT-4o have a particular writing style, including both vocabulary and distinct grammatical features, regardless of the type of text they're prompted with. The style is informationally dense, features longer words, and favors certain grammatical structures (like participles; GPT-4o loooooves participles).<p>With Llama we're able to compare base and instruction-tuned models, and it's the instruction-tuned models that show the biggest differences. Evidently the AI companies are (deliberately or not) introducing particular writing styles with their instruction-tuning process. I'd like to get access to more base models to compare and figure out why.</p>
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<p>I don't think the AI companies are systematically working to make their models sound more human. They're working to make them better at specific tasks, but the writing styles are, if anything, even more strange as they advance.<p>Comparing base and instruction-tuned models, the base models are vaguely human in style, while instruction-tuned models systematically prefer certain types of grammar and style features. (For example, GPT-4o loves participial clauses and nominalizations.) <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107" rel="nofollow">https://arxiv.org/abs/2410.16107</a><p>When I've looked at more recent models like o3, there are other style shifts. The newer OpenAI models increasingly use bold, bulleted lists, and headings -- much more than, say, GPT-3.5 did.<p>So you get what you optimize for. OpenAI wants short, punchy, bulleted answers that sound authoritative, and that's what they get. But that's not how humans write, and so it'll remain easy to spot AI writing.</p>
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