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[Siege of Melos](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos)

Opus 4.8 training works well for agentic work. Not for code harness.

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stronger on coding and raw capability but can be more argumentative, verbose, and costly.

Reliability and instruction-following Many users say 4.6 felt more reliable and followed instructions better. "With 4.6, when I tell it something, it actually remembers the spirit of what I asked for and keeps applying it."

Others report 4.8 drifts from preferences and can be frustrating to control. "I still find myself getting frustrated when it ignores preferences and drifts from instructions"

Some people find 4.7/4.8 push back more and act more adversarial than 4.6. "The biggest complaint against 4.8 is that it is argumentative and "pushes back" constantly"

Coding quality and capability Several users praise 4.8’s coding strength and thoroughness. "4.8 is technically impressive, especially for coding"

Other reports say 4.6 could be better for certain coding workflows and breaks less. "4.6 still >> 4.8 for anyone else as well? Maybe I'm in the minority, but for my use cases Opus 4.6 is still better than"

Some recommend mixing models: use 4.8 for key tasks and 4.6 for general work to save tokens. "What I do is... use 4.8 for key moments, and for everything else 4.6"

Cost, speed and token behavior Users note 4.8 often uses more tokens and can feel slower because it “thinks” more. "4.8 is much more cautious, and as a result - slower. It checks everything, thinks for a long time etc."

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It is like one of Pizzaro's men crying that someone have stolen his precious golden dublons

As Lenin have said - "Loot the looters" (Russian: Грабь награбленное)

I meant Opus 4.8 which is rather dumb and ineffective in coding harness, especially with higher thinking levels.

Qwen-3.7-Plus is quite OK, good for subagent use. Way better then Sonnet.

Qwen-3.8-Max-Preview seems working just fine for me at the moment - I am playing with is right now but too early to say anything. At 10% of regular price it is a steal so far.

Where will you put a line between photography and pressing button?

My point being - tools change with time.

Re-valuating these projects on the books would be an embarrassing to the board. Losing face, shareholders questions.

Selling these assets (possibly via asset swap) to specialized cementary fund where they can be disolved and disappear in the haze is a different, more honorable matter.

Seniors should be paid to actively introduce juniors to the trade over couple of years. No more bootcamp entry.

And it would be significant $ for senior to agree to expend his time and energy on software engineering apprentices. There would be also very limited number of places with good seniors. Exactly like medicine for a long time now.

In fact it is already happening in some companies I know about - seniors geting their bonuses tied to juniors being under their wings.

For Opus 4.8 training with overblown internal dialogue and second opinions - Max effort burns just tokens and wastes time without much value. Spinning wheels.

Canada - they are offering euthanasia right and left.

EU countries are working on imigration rules that would allow for bringing imigrant labour without ever extending citizen privileges to them. A sort of permanent uderclass. This is what voters want at this time.

I run a proxy that allows me switching back to Opus when necessary.

Deepseek isn't like Z.ai which is bit cheaper only on the surface. Or like Qwen 3.7 Max which is Opus-level but very expensive.

Deepseek is my favorite since V3 but V4 is definitely catch-up to newer Anthropic models

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Euthanasia for the young might be the best we can offer to the next generation.

Rapidly depopulating Earth below 1 bilion people or less seems in our reach.