This thread is about what you might teach your children, and predicting what works well in 20 years. There's no future where knowing how to play an instrument isn't a great thing. If you can't afford a guitar, don't get a guitar. There are cheaper instruments. Humans have figured out how to make it work across the ages, regardless of financial status.

You might change careers several times in your life, but being able to play an instrument is always a viable way to enrich one's life.

Even if you have a basic skill-based workflow, a rudimentary retrospective > process improvements artifact that can be ingested on the next run can have a positive impact.

Regardless, both of those talents have the potential to open doors and set the stage for opportunity, nor are they mutually exclusive to whatever economic skills might be viable in the future.

Being proficient in reading, at least one instrument, and one additional language is always welcome, regardless of the timeline.

Swarms don't necessarily need to be about speed. You can get a lot of value from small swarms doing things like analysis or verification work.

FWIW, I used Debian more than anything over decades, and also have little patience when it comes to unstable computers. NixOS is a breath of fresh air and has reinvigorated my love of Linux. I haven't found it less stable than Debian, and also have a higher degree of confidence when making changes. It has its quirks, but ultimately I've found it a joy to use, and I'm never going back to a distro that doesn't have similar capabilities.

If you boot default Debian and apt install a handful of packages from the primary channel, it probably doesn't matter much, but if you enjoy even a modest amount of customizing, NixOS really shines. From one Linux user to another, I encourage you to try it! I have no affiliation, just an old head stoked on Nix.

> our systems are not as hardened as we say they are

Agreed, and this has always been the case. Anyone in security already knows this. But there's a difference between the unsolved problem of 100% secure networked systems vs not applying available techniques to mitigate the current issues. I'm not saying it's easy, or that there are any guarantees in this new world, I'm just pointing out what appears to be low effort by the labs.

Negligence is pretty much the standard for computer security because there aren't meaningful consequences for the most part. I got another $35 dollar class action settlement the other day for a data breach I had no control over. Cool.

Personally, I'm "OK" with all of it, because maybe we'll finally see more effort on the security front, which has historically been neglected since day one. Besides that, I also love seeing the emergent behavior and evolution of computing and society.

That said, it would also be nice to see these companies that talk about their product's existential threat to computer security and society, apply a bit more effort to how they run their experiments.

Obviously no, as I haven't hardened my system for that. You made a claim that "adversaries have never existed inside of the systems that we hoped to secure in the first place" and I gave you two examples that show why that claim is ridiculous.

> It's a start, but now you're just pushing the fallibility up into extensive policy writing. You have to fully audit and trust every endpoint that's been granted access.

We're talking about is trillion dollar companies. Outbound DPI is just one method. There are lots of tools and techniques available to mitigate the behavior that has people upset.

No security is perfect, and aggressive hardening takes time and resources, but it's certainly within reach of a company that has the resources of a frontier lab. People are cranky because it appears that the labs have been lazy. It's not the unsolved problem that you're making it out to be.

> adversaries have never existed inside of the systems that we hoped to secure in the first place

Yes, that's why all users are root. We built MACs like SELinux just for funsies.

> nobody has actually solved this problem adequately yet

L7 DPI firewall policy.

I do think Riot is in a good position to develop an MMO though, and maybe GW3 will deliver something as well, but the genre is on life support IMHO.

Even if someone isn't inclined to be computer literate, a shared understanding that the interface can be tailored to your preferences and that many flavors of interface exist, would lead to improvements IMHO. This is already normalized in the Linux world, but that world is very small.