Comiong to harnesses, even Pi seems like a weird choice. I mean Pi, until it's "your own customised Pi", is pretty useless and pointless. Besides they are also starting to have their own models/infra business (or is it mostly proxy like OpenCode?).

I have also given up on Herdr and came back to Tmux (and doing a bit of customisation slowly, as I need it). I wanted to try dsh but somehow couldn't brave it. Maybe once I have a good container/vm setup is ready. I know I am biased/discriminatory here, but there are things about which I'd be better safe than sorry.

As for OpenCode: I used V1 a lot and I am struggling with V2 currently. Yes, it just doesn't feel right. It's neither here, nor there. I am not a harness reviewer, so I won't be able to put that into industry accepted words and tests but it doesn't feel useful and right to me. At least Pi is completely stripped (it might be changing though) and then you can make it as you want it. Even Claude Code is better than OpenCode and that's saying something. I find Codex to be quite effective but it doesn't feel familiar. I am still in the middle of some work so I am using OpenCode v2 a lot (and then there's OpenCode Go and I won't want to play around a lot with it) but I will move away. Where? I am not sure yet.

What I feel will work for me? I guess a harness of my own! Forked something smaller/similar? I don't know. No, really! Just like I have never found the "my" notes app and journal app yet, I don't think I should use any of these harnesses if it doesn't work for me, especially now that I can kinda make one (hail LLM/vibe coding :P). It doesn't even have to be a TS/Node monsters most of these harnesses are. More I am reading about, digging deeper (haven't been quite far yet), how models and the "local setup" interact, the more I end up scratching my head – why all this drama and why all these 5 billion GitHub star "harnesses" with trillions of lines of code! Why? It doesn't make sense!

    'oh btw, add the light theme as well and maybe read the system's, if that's not such a bother of course'

Or we can just stop pretending that no one in this sub-thread is a racist.

> Let's just be honest on the internet and stop pretending not to understand things.

Yeah, let's do that. You wanna start? Come on now. Go on.

Oh, then you will be missing more than half the fun of this thread. The sleeper agent racist in good people of the good part of the globe come knocking whenever a third world country (with a somewhat decent economy) comes in the news for bad reasons. You have also seemingly missed the threads about space related failures and accidents related to this country here. Those will be interesting to read. There are very subtle terms being used in some comments like "their worldview" et cetera.

> genuine need for an Indian company CA

Should be for pretty much any country and those certs should be trusted like other certs are trusted!!! Otherwise change the way these chains/trusts work.

> since not every body can/wants to use Let's Encrypt or whatever.

No they don't. It's an American company. (Let's not begin about "non-profit" part of it).

At one point permission pop-up fatigue sets in we start giving any permission as if it's normal. We also become desensitised to isntalling tools: brew, npm, it becomes second nature.

"Oh, those 367 tools installed by package X? Yeah yeah, must be normal, that's how all these work now".

"Brew shows 59 packages outdated?". "Must upgrade". "Yeah, done. Perfect".

And the advent of agents and harnesses. It's not a matter of whether, it's when! OSes need to do something about it. Help users have complete separate "program space" at ease with better, easier, and lighter VMs if nothing else. I know, I know - Unix and Linux solved all this even before Alexander III of Macedon started wearing his nappies. Of course.