I grew up in pilsen which was gang controlled 'no go zone' until it got gentrified over last 1-2 decades on the east side. We knew which gangs controlled which areas, we are only a few blocks away from El Chapo's 'The Pilsen twins' family home ( never saw them though) . People who live here and raise families here know where 'no go zones' are and stay away from. If you visit any local here for a few you will get a lecture about which areas are 'no go' gang controlled zones ( south of cermak and west of western).

Ofcouse, you can 'go' to gentrified restaurants and coffee shops on 18th st/Thalia hall and get 'the experience' for outsiders and suburbanites. Doesn't mean there aren't no go zones in pilsen.

It frustrating to me that people who chose live in white segregated suburbs ( 'for aesthetic reasons', code for not too many non whites ) and send their kids to segregated schools are lecturing us what words to use and what to call ourselves. I personally detest these white ppl more than Tucker Carlson types. Yes they are 'no go zones' and govt/community should fix it, calling them 'problematic areas' instead isn't a fix.

I didn't invoke any 'rhetoric'. you link shows which areas are no go zones. https://abc7chicago.com/feature/tracking-crime-and-safety-in...

> By that argument River North[0] is a no go zone.

you posted one solitary example. Argument isn't 'one shooting' makes no-go zone. Try to finding other examples and you'll see.

Woman, 40, hit by stray bullet while driving in Austin ( https://chicago.suntimes.com/2017/2/7/18389033/woman-40-hit-... )

13-year-old boy hit by stray bullet in South Austin, hospitalized (https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/13-year-old-boy-critically...)

pretty sure this stuff never happened in oak park where you live for safety of your family.

'Its not no a go zone , its a problematic area' is not a very useful distinction for me.

> I don't know if you live in Chicagoland or not

I've lived in pilsen for last 25 years and grew up here. I don't live in the burbs. I know what 'no go zones' mean, the block i grew up on in west pilsen used to be one ( but not anymore) . I now live on the edge of 'no go zone' in pilsen ( east of western ) . My wife works for charter school in englewood where i do weekly drop off and pickup. Englewood is a 'no go' zone for us, meaning we won't go there if we have no business being there, we never make a stop in that neighborhood ( like the cyclists you mention) .

you choose live white majority suburb with double the median income but not in austin. That revealed preference proves that Austin was a 'no go' zone for you? Going to coffeshop once in a while doesn't really count, imo.

> is absolutely not a "no-go zone". Words mean things.

You said austin is not a no go zone, can you give me an example of an area considered no go zone. Perhaps that will clarify.

> Notably, in the ~20 years I've lived here, I haven't heard a single story about any of those people being shot.

I just gave you two examples from last 2 months of ppl getting shot by stray bullets. What does you personally hearing about cyclists have to do with anything? This type of statement is really hard to respond to.

feeling of power and purpose?

If you are indispensable at maintaining convoluted stored proceduces with business rules baked into them . Most likely you won't get the next level position which would need company to find somoneelse.

meta stock today is at $280.

maybe your definition is different.

From last few weeks,

> Man, 38, shot in the face in Austin. > The 38-year-old was walking on the sidewalk when someone started shooting around 10:20 p.m. in the 4900 block of West Hubbard Street, according to police.

https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/man-38-shot-in-the-face-in...

> 7 Shot, 1 Fatally, in Austin as Group Gathered to Honor Life of Man Killed in Car Accident

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/7-shot-1-fatally-in-au...

> Boy, 15, injured after shooting in Austin overnight

https://wgntv.com/news/chicagocrime/boy-15-injured-after-sho...

> Austin Neighbors Are Helping Each Other Get Mental Health Care After Shootings Near Preschool

> Some kids said they were too scared to play outside after hearing gunfire, a preschool leader said. A 20-year-old woman was killed and two men were wounded in two shootings days apart.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2023/04/27/austin-neighbors-are...

> Devout 'God-fearing' woman killed by stray bullet in front of Austin home, blocks away from church

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shooting-crime-woman-killed-...

> We care about how you think about and approach tough problems, which includes how you take hints and respond to being wrong.

First and second sentences need to swapped.

you know there are actual no go zones like austin area in chicago. Why are you hiding behind 'conservative commentators' as a cover for your statement.

i think GP is talking about big cities. My library ( heart of chicago) is def fits the description.

streetview : https://www.google.com/local/place/fid/0x880e2d00ee6fbd09:0x...

This is outside my libary from st view: https://imgur.com/a/CE51r2v

There is usually a huge congregation of homeless there by afternoon. And its even worse inside the library. You get hit with stench as soon as you open the library door. Sucks because libarians have exceptional knowledge that any book lover would enjoy talking to.

> You're describing a local problem.

Unless you are suggesting middle class can only exist in the burbs and small towns.

I 've lived in pilsen chicago for over 25 yrs, this is my home. Hate to relocate in next few yrs because now i have newborn.

most companies have pay bands based on the titles. Always chase the title.

do you have any reference to this by any chance? I want to search for this but wasn't sure what ' like -for-like' means in this context.

Sorry didn't mean to offend. I have prediabtes and dr told me that it could lower my immunity. That was his response when i asked him if there is anything i could do to stop getting sick.

> No one in my family is overweight or has any sort of health issues

same here. I am not obese or have any visible health issues but have high fasting glucose and prediabetes a1c. Even prediabetes can impair the immune system.

This doesn't contradict your anecdote though. Its totally possible that you and your friends are getting more sick now given increased exposure and high rates of prediabetes in the country ( 41% of men , 1/3 overall population)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8627907/

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04647526 this one was supposed to publish some preliminary results in q1 2023 but i don't see any updates :/

My doctor told me that being metabolically unhealthy weakens immune system and excersing and eating healthy will protect from frequent infections.

I don't know what to make of this.