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New comment by deogeo in "Princeton math prof challenges admins 'systemic racism' narrative"

deogeo — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 00:49:26 +0000

And yet Black students are better represented than non-Jewish White students. Princeton vs US demographics (in %), from most to least represented:

          Princeton  US    ratio
  Asian   20.9       5.3    3.94
  Jewish   8.0       2.15   3.72
  Black    7.7      12.7    0.61
  White   34.7      59.3    0.58
  Latino   9.5      17.6    0.54

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_Sta...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews (using average of 2.15%)

https://hillel.org/college-guide/list/record/princeton-unive...

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/princeton-university...

New comment by deogeo in "World Government"

deogeo — Sun, 13 Sep 2020 10:03:06 +0000

Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

New comment by deogeo in "The Disinvitation"

deogeo — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 22:24:33 +0000

Of course, when faced with a few loud complainers, you would never consider yourself to be right, and them wrong. You would recognize the folly of your ways, and the wisdom of the crowd that was right all along.

New comment by deogeo in "The Disinvitation"

deogeo — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:31:40 +0000

"Software Craftsmanship is Sexist and Must be Scrapped" -- https://medium.com/@alandevlin7/software-craftsmanship-is-se...

It seems what he wrote was accurate. What problem do you have with it, specifically?

New comment by deogeo in "The Disinvitation"

deogeo — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 21:25:10 +0000

For the benefit of those less up to date, why don't you link them.

New comment by deogeo in "[dead]"

deogeo — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 20:05:48 +0000

If one digs deeper, one sees that of the 25 university heads, 11 (44%) are Jewish (2% of the US). Meaning of the 25, only 12 (48%) are non-Jewish white (58% of the US) (NYT counted 13, but Jahanian is Iranian, which surely qualifies as a minority).

For the supreme court, 3 (33%) are Jewish, and 4 (44%) non-Jewish white.

Of the major news organization heads, 4 (27%) are Jewish, and 53% non-Jewish white.

Of the top TV and Hollywood heads, 7 (28%) are Jewish, and 60% non-Jewish white.

So it turns out, looking at only non-Jewish whites, they're more often than not under-represented.

Racial bias may begin in babies at six months, U of T research reveals

deogeo — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 20:39:52 +0000

Article URL: https://www.utoronto.ca/news/racial-bias-may-begin-babies-six-months-u-t-research-reveals

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23901649

Points: 1

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New comment by deogeo in "Who keeps buying California's scarce water? Saudi Arabia"

deogeo — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:23:07 +0000

> But what business does a foreign company have drawing precious resources from a US desert to offset a lack of resources halfway around the globe?

Surprisingly nativist rhetoric coming from the Guardian.

New comment by deogeo in "[dead]"

deogeo — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:10:33 +0000

> Few tears will be shed for the SAT and ACT exams, even though they were once infamous for causing Harvard to be overpopulated with high-scoring “undesirables” like Jews and Catholics, forcing the school to add letters of reference and personal essays to help restore the WASP balance.

Tangential, but this is highly misleading. Jewish students are still over 5x over-represented, and non-Jewish white students are 0.6x under-represented, according to Harvard's own diversity report and polling done by Jewish organizations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23764422

New comment by deogeo in "Prominent Artists and Writers Warn of an ‘Intolerant Climate’"

deogeo — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 02:54:54 +0000

> Another person who signed, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in an effort to stay out of the growing storm, said she did not know who all the other signatories were when she agreed to participate, and if she had, she may not have signed.

Always condemn 'the enemy', even when you agree with them. Anything else could be interpreted as a sign of disloyalty.

New comment by deogeo in "Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard (2019)"

deogeo — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 22:10:24 +0000

That is correct.

New comment by deogeo in "Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard (2019)"

deogeo — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 22:07:02 +0000

While still greatly over-represented (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23764422), Hillel tends to over-count Jewish students, according to https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/how-many-jewish-undergraduat...

New comment by deogeo in "Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard (2019)"

deogeo — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 22:04:46 +0000

Only 12% of Harvard students are international: https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics

New comment by deogeo in "Legacy and Athlete Preferences at Harvard (2019)"

deogeo — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 21:42:18 +0000

It's illuminating to also compare Harvard demographics vs the US. Sorted by most to least represented:

    Jewish: 14.0% vs 2.6% (5.38x)
    Asian American: 25.3% vs 5.3% (4.77x)
    Native Hawaiian: 0.6% vs 0.2% (3.00x)
    Native American: 1.8% vs 0.7% (2.57x)
    African American: 14.3% vs 12.7% (1.13x)
    Hispanic or Latino: 12.2% vs 17.6% (0.69x)
    non-Jewish white: 33.0% vs 58.9% (0.56x)

Sources:

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/admissions-statistics from 2019

https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/how-many-jewish-undergraduat...

https://features.thecrimson.com/2016/freshman-survey/lifesty...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews, upper estimate used

New comment by deogeo in "After GitHub CEO backs Black Lives Matter, workers demand an end to ICE contract"

deogeo — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 17:59:09 +0000

You're correct regarding the law, but I wouldn't be so quick to claim it's not as bad. Suppose a business refused to serve union activists? Environmentalists? Feminists? Suppose many large businesses did so?

New comment by deogeo in "Was Modern Art Really a CIA Psy-Op?"

deogeo — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 17:09:21 +0000

Yet the CIA-modern art connection has been confirmed:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_expressionism#Abstrac...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_and_the_Cultural_Cold_War

New comment by deogeo in "Why are there so few black people in STEM?"

deogeo — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 02:32:10 +0000

> Well, first they'd need to be over-represented ;)

Not at all - behold, an entire article complaining about too many whites on Harvard [1], despite being the most under-represented group [2].

[1] https://slate.com/business/2019/09/harvard-admissions-affirm...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21130080

New comment by deogeo in "Why are there so few black people in STEM?"

deogeo — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:05:11 +0000

Claiming Asians in the US have never benefited from privilege implies exactly that, unless you tweak the definition of privilege depending on what group you're judging.

New comment by deogeo in "Why are there so few black people in STEM?"

deogeo — Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:35:44 +0000

> I didn't say anything about whites.

When you say "odds are stacked against" someone, you have to compare to some other group to see what the "default" odds are. And privilege is not limited to the law. If a white person preferentially hires or promotes other whites, you'd claim those whites benefited from privilege. But you won't say the same for Asians, because of the Chinese Exclusion Act? Or because you just don't believe such a thing happens, despite evidence to the contrary [1,2]?

[1] https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Elekta-RVW...

[2] https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouragin...

Kashmir’s new status could bring West Bank-like demographic change (2019)

deogeo — Sun, 14 Jun 2020 23:47:28 +0000

Article URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/08/08/kashmirs-new-status-could-bring-demographic-change-drawing-comparisons-west-bank/

Comments URL: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23522455

Points: 2

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