Yeah, this is insane. When I worked in marketing analytics I would point this out, and the most common response was that retention was a different team so we don't care about it.

Yup, I have a psychology degree and we had courses in HCI. I ended up skipping them because the lecturer (who was great, and his notes were phenomenal) was just telling project management war stories, and I'd spent the few years previous in construction listening to the same stories in a different domain.

Now, 20 years later, I'm the one telling those stories.

Yeah, I definitely take that point.

That being said, I don't have a better term for the small number of people who actually try to live the teachings of the Gospels, as opposed to those who mumble along to the Nicene Creed, take the Eucharist and go right back to robbing their fellow humanity.

So that's the term I picked.

Like, to be fair, I am almost certainly a heretic from the perspective of the Catholic Church, but if the Source of All judges me based on that, then I guess we have very different priorities.

For context, I grew up in an Ireland where literally everyone was a practicing Catholic, but very few actually lived it in their lives, hence why this annoys me. As Jesus (did not) say, blessed be the hypocrites etc.

This is a great use case, as you have ground truth to compare to. LLMs are phenomenal at this stuff. Where you don't have this is where they are less successful (in my experience).

Can you help me understand what domain and language(s) you are using here?

This really does not match my experience so I'd love to understand what the differences may be.

Was there an existing good test suite? Is this an application built before LLMs?

I'd love to get more info so I can figure out how to get Opus to do this for myself, as I really haven't had this experience.

You are almost certainly correct in terms of how the public models work. I guess it's possible that the labs have some tools connected for more recent stuff like this, but it seems unlikely.

Much as I dislike disagreeing with C.S. Lewis, my personal nomenclature is to reserve the term Christian for those who live the values promoted by the Gospels. This is clearly non standard though, so I see the potential for confusion.

Again, super confused. Like yeah the Eucharist is clearly the most important part for many Catholics, but the notion that the readings don't contain moral teachings is very strange to me.

Am I missing something in your point?

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Always has been.

Look, I feel really bad for you, and I hope things get better for you (and the others in this thread).

But it's worth calling out that the post-GFC software world was entirely insane. The low interest rates caused a lot of madness to be funded, and software engineers and other "technical" people got treated with kid gloves because their skills were perceived as rare, and the moonshots only needed to pay off 1 of 100 times for the funders to be happy.

That's not the world we are in today, money is much more expensive, and the mainstreaming of remote work made a lot of businesses think about offshoring even more than they were already. Also with that, there's AI where lots of people believe they don't need tech people any more (they're probably wrong, but it'll take a while to come out in the wash).

> So then what's the point of learning anything beyond surface level?

Because if you learn some useful skills (computers etc), AND you learn how to talk about business & sales, then you can get a better job. The days of just being able to sit in a corner and code are gone for now, but people with enough skills to talk to other humans about their actual problems can definitely do well.

But again, mostly I'm sorry that things haven't worked out for you and that things improve soon.

I feel that there's a lot of truth to this, except that there are lots of actual Christians amongst the various denominations.

Sadly, they're not the majority, but living this way is pretty hard so it's not that surprising.

Sorry, can you help me understand what you mean here?

I attended a Catholic mass from 1-18 (and occasionally since then), and there was definitely a bunch of moral reflection from the readings, gospels and the sermons.

So I'm struggling to understand how this would differ across other Christian denominations, so I'd really appreciate a better awareness of what you mean here.

It's not entirely positive, it means that they have a bunch of debt.

But yeah, that number is not reflective of their core business.

If they can pay for training/inference out of revenue then they'll most likely survive. If they can't, then most likely they won't.

He's definitely not a software guy, and has been dead wrong on the software use-cases for LLMs. They are really, really bad in most other areas though (because we haven't built decent harnesses for broader "knowledge work").

We'll get there, but it'll take a decade or two. My plan is to ride this wave into retirement/death/immanence of the machine god, whichever comes first.

Grok is 100% not comparable. Like, we have a cursor subscription at work, and when my boss starts hassling me about token spend I honestly prefer to use composer rather than Grok.

It gaslights me on a regular basis and just straight up tells me it's done things, and then when I ask why this thing we fixed isn't working it tells me it hasn't fixed it.

It's actually incredible how bad it is. All the world's compute, and they still can't compete with even the Chinese vendors, never mind the labs and Meta/Google.

The real question is are they white wolf or DnD?

Like, I'm a data scientist, and have seen my share of truly awful code, but currently I'm working on a system which has pyspark code inside javascript code.

Like, it works (for now), but my eyes, the goggles they do nothing.

Nicotine is a very useful drug that is sadly so very, very bad for you.

It has weight loss impacts, acts as a stimulant and is actually one of the better non-prescribed treatments for ADHD (as well as being super associated with schizophrenia).

After I got my ADHD diagnoses I noted that this was always called out in the literature, and I have been addicted to nicotine for the past 25 years or so (on a vape now, which appears to significantly reduce some of the bad side effects, but is still probably not good for me).

During construction, yes. Not afterwards. So all of the impacts on employment will be temporary.

They'll definitely change, but I'd be really surprised if people stopped hiring software engineers/product/data people.

The agents are useful to the extent that you can sense-check them, and that's a big part of what the humans do in this loop.

> the AI is here, getting better and better and is going to take our jobs

As above, I feel it probably won't take software jobs, but the situation in the rest of the economy is far worse. The labs simply cannot get the kind of data that they would need to train the models to do this.

Barring super-intelligence (which I'm not even sure is a coherent construct), I don't see how that happens.

Loads of stuff is gonna change, but it'll take longer than a lot of people around here expect (rather like the Internet did change the world, but the dot com bubble was still a bubble).