<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: donotsurveil</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=donotsurveil</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2026 08:47:46 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=donotsurveil" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by donotsurveil in "Bro pages: like man pages, but with examples only"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Julia is a first name which is free of negative association.<p>Bro is associated with obnoxious, stupid, despicable, disrespectful.</p>
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<p>To me it's not a gender issue, it is that bro is synonym for obnoxious, annoying, stupid, disrespectful among others.</p>
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<p>This is why you don't get a terrible name for your idea if you want it to succeed.</p>
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<p>With a user provided content database, you have a problem: users can input crap content. So you devise a way for user to sort the crappiest from the less crappy and now you have two problems, and so on.</p>
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<p>You're missing the point. It's not about being offensive but about being self-explanatory. For this initiative to be successful it needs to have a wide support and large user base which is not gonna happen with a name based on an insider joke only.<p>Just look at the effort and energy dispersed in discussing the name here that could have been used to improve their database if they had chosen a good name for their tool.</p>
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<p>Man is a pager interface to system documentation, the content is written y knowledgeable people and is actual documentation.<p>Bro is a user provided database of one liner command which you have no idea if they will do what they claim when they do work.</p>
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<p>Could your statement be more wrong ?<p>To most people english is a foreign language which makes it improbable they would get a play on english slang words.<p>'bro' is not even loosely related to man: man is a pager interface for system documentation, it is standard, has existed for decades and comes with pretty much every *nixes and is related to the info command. The content man displays is written by knowledgeable people (developers, maintainers, etc.) and is split in several sections:
1   Executable programs or shell commands
2   System calls (functions provided by the kernel)
3   Library calls (functions within program libraries)
4   Special files (usually found in /dev)
5   File formats and conventions eg /etc/passwd
6   Games
7   Miscellaneous (including macro packages and conventions), e.g. man(7), groff(7)
8   System administration commands (usually only for root)
9   Kernel routines [Non standard]<p>On the other hand, bro is a brand new non standard ruby utility as an interface to a database of user provided one liner command examples ranked through a voting system that could probably be easily gamed. Its content right now is uncategorized and of dubious quality with some command not being working examples, some missing explanation to even being outright malicious.<p>Those two very different tools are hardly related in any way.<p>Lastly, fsck stands for file system check, its name is suited to its use and follows a tradition of clever naming which answer the need to be concise, indicative of its use and somewhat intuitive.<p>see cp for copy, mv for move, mkdir for make directory, cat for concatenate, chown for change ownership, du for disk usage, df for disk free, ls to list files, rm to remove files, rmdir to remove directories, sed for stream editor and so on.<p>Asking for a rename of fsck to love is just the perfect example against the point you're trying to make, that what you say is relevant to this discussion.</p>
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<p>The name is terrible.<p>Here are a few suggestions of names:<p>- ccex for common case examples
- howdoi for how do I
- comcasex for common case examples
- usex for use examples
- usagex for usage examples
- howtouse for how to use
- ill-namedpoorlythoughtoutcommand for bro
- loudandobnoxiousdespicableman for bro</p>
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<p>You got it all wrong, the name of a command has to be practical and be related the actual use of the command.<p>Naming your command based on an inside joke renders it pretty useless to those outside who don't get the joke and hard to find when you don't already know the name.<p>Less being named from more makes sense, both are common terms and less is more. But bro as a related thing to man when it is actually something totally different is too far fetched to make any sense.</p>
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<p>This doesn't mean dewitt point is invalid. From the point of view of someone outside of USofA bro is portrayed in the movies and the internet exactly as dewitt and urban dictionary says.<p>A loud and obnoxious fraternity guy with partying, acting stupid and engaging in despicable behavior as their life style.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure where you got this idea that bro means "friend". To me it's more like what the urban dictionary says
<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bro" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bro</a><p>1. Obnoxious partying males who are often seen at college parties. When they aren’t making an ass of themselves they usually just stand around holding a red plastic cup waiting for something exciting to happen so they can scream something that demonstrates how much they enjoy partying.<p>2. An alpha male idiot. This is the derogatory sense of the word (common usage in the western US): white, 16-25 years old, inarticulate, belligerent, talks about nothing but chicks and beer, drives a jacked up truck that’s plastered with stickers, has rich dad that owns a dealership or construction business and constantly tells this to chicks at parties...</p>
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<p>I'm not a woman and I had an instant instinctive rejection reaction to the title of this post. I made a conscious effort to click anyway to see what this was about, and now that I have I still have a rejection reaction to the name.</p>
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<p>English is not my mother tongue so maybe that's why I don't get the humor here, what wordplay are you talking about ?<p>man is short for manual following a unix tradition, bro is a word associated with despicable attitude and stupid behavior holding those as life goals which has absolutely no link with its actual use.<p>There is no way I'm sharing my library of command examples I built for myself over the years with this ill-named initiative.</p>
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<p>No it's not. sudo echo "bro $*" > <a href="http://bropages.org" rel="nofollow">http://bropages.org</a> doesn't work and "gem install explain" neither.</p>
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<p>I agree, this is a really poorly thought concept. I almost skipped this entry because it's started with bro which is a word used to describe some really despicable and stupid attitude. I did click because it said man pages which are really useful.<p>I have a local set of files full of notes and examples and I will <i>not</i> share them with bro pages for two reasons: 1) the name 2) the ruby requirement which limits its reach and usefulness.</p>
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<p>This title is outrageously misleading.<p>Turns out this is a policy assessment of those companies and whether they publicly stand on the side of users when the government attempts to seek access to private data.<p>This a 6 point assessment:
1. Require a warrant for content of communications. 
2. Tell users about government data requests. 
3. Publish transparency reports. 
4. Publish law enforcement guidelines. 
5. Fight for users’ privacy rights in courts.
6. Fight for users’ privacy in Congress.</p>
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<p>Apparently it's post a banner on a website, register on facebook, google+ and twitter to post there that you are against surveillance.<p>A nice attempt at sorting out people through self-selection who are to be put on a special surveillance list.</p>
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<p>Calling upon what a dead person would have done if not dead is something I have a hard time getting behind. But using facebook, google + and twitter to fight back against surveillance made it clear that this whole initiative is a joke and a bad poorly executed one.<p>I wish those guys luck in trying to push against government surveillance towards private for profit transnational corporations' surveillance, but there is no way I would support this kind of initiative.<p>Either you fight against surveillance or you don't, but fighting some form of surveillance and promoting another is not fight against surveillance.</p>
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