"There's never been a better time to go into math" was the final statement of the ten minute orientation session from the Dep Chairman.

It was a great thing to do anyway.

Then.

The 80 bit format was an at-the-time (ATT) engineering optimization that made ATT double precision (DP) more attractive given the better round-off behavior, at "no-cost".

So the interesting question here (that I don't know) is: is "deterministic" quad-precision (QP) as the accuracy upgrade from "non-deterministic" 80bit internal DP, always better economically?

Depends on what the computational problem is, given a budget. And that budget buys things that are only available on the market.

I used to think technology monocultures were a good thing but given the current state of things I have reversed myself. I am happy that life has simplified for you though.

I've been watching, lightly, interval arithmetic for 40 years. As you know algorithm sensitivity information is mandatory. We used intel 80bit FP do evaluate that, slowly, back in the day. We didn't use interval arithmetic, though we knew about it. It wasn't economically viable. Hey C++ what can you do for us? Templates, damn.

How important is interval arithmetic, economically, now?

Is that inaccurate? If not how did you store the extra 16 bits (DP)? I should've bought a zortech compiler back in the day? ;-)

I am sorry that Borland hooked me with turbo-p and then jacked me up with turbo-c/c++.

With the NAS Parallel Benchmarks we were trying to encourage as wide a diversity of hardware and algorithms as possible so we were lenient with the acceptable "valid" interval of "correct" behavior. I've already discussed heretical Cray FP. Those were fantastic systems. No way would we disqualify some weird/different algorithm/architecture if it meaningfully advanced the SOA in performance/efficiency. OTOH wars were fought over having any firm accuracy requirements at all. So this jvm thing looked... pointless at best?

This is all nostalgia for a past that actually was. Those were the days my friends.

I dunno Walter but as the first(?) IEEE754 implementation in a PC system it seemed like a pretty damn big deal to us people working in numerical algorithms. It was a big enough deal to me at the time (I was in graduate school) that I've kept my 8087 chip all my life and have it before me now. I see the old boy has lost a pin during the last move, dammit.

Chip has "3716150AA MALAY BEV 22" embossed on the pin side. Search gets me nothing.

As far as delivered accuracy of the 8087, performing the operations at 80 bits, rather than 64 it was better than non-extended formats. Anyway you can read all about it here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_precision#x86_extende...

Kahan endorsed is all I needed to know.

I can't remember the details from back then but the initial Sun java implementation did something weird with this.

Listings:

No HOA fee: 32 up to $500/month: 62

I'm not going to bother because this is an HN comment but I think you can imagine what happens to the results when I specify newer than say 1993 (when my house was built).

I have an HOA, but it seems defunct. Everything we do to the house, if visible, can be interpreted to mean I must get unanimous agreements, in writing, from all my neighbors.

It turns out I managed to land right between two asshole neighbors (constant trespassing, dogs, etc)

But isn't this sort of structure just completely transparent to [Nation|Narco]/State Actors? Feel free to widen the set of economically interested actors.

How do you scale video interviews?

I think I am missing something about this scene. I really want to dive in tho.

Compared to what? Your string of comments are banal generalities that may or may not apply to this particular situation. Where else in this world at this time, is this particular governmental failing handled materially better?

Singapore? China? Russia? Switzerland? England?

I have sometimes learned interesting things from you (as a commenter) but there is nothing to learn here. It appears to be only diversion and distraction.

It's a big world out there, whatever "here" means.

That last sentence makes me wonder, do you enjoy ads?

I went to a Super Bowl party a while back and the half time show glitched continuously. Random weird glitches for the rest of the time. => note to self: don't pay for this.

Sorry malfist for thinking bad thoughts. I've redirected all that negative energy back to its rightful owner: Samsung.

The washer next to that dryer was an LG, and in my notes I never touched it.

Always good to reattach to reality.

Ah, I see that the washer/dryer pair we bought new 4 years ago and hauled across the country are LG ThinQs. Very happy with them. Apparently can be "smart" but I shut that down.

We raised a child with the principle that "No News is Good News". She turned out great! And she lives that way still. That constant level of screen stimulation is strictly not necessary for family happiness, and I think you all who think so have not really internalized what it means for a child to learn responsibility.

See also free-range kids, and the social insanity that causes kids/parents to get arrested for eg playing in a park alone. There's a bunch of mental illness out there, and the screens are big reason why.

Oh right. My beautiful daughter reads books constantly. Weird that, huh.

Similarly, you can read the book "People of the Sturgeon: Wisconsin's Love Affair with an Ancient Fish" to learn about how the people around Lake Winnebago came together to restore the health of its native Sturgeon population.

This idea of "othering" human beings apart from the animal world might sound like the most effective way to "help" animals but humans, being complicated, don't work that way.

I couldn't care less what you eat, if it makes you happy, awesome. But there's a whole lot more going on culturally with conservation that is entwined with the evolved nature of human beings.

That said I have run into a number of unsolvable captchas lately on firefox. Had to use chromium on a healthcorp insurer site.

If you want to talk about work, well I'm adjacent to 5th generation farmers. Self driving climate controlled machinery is a thing now, but! hard to imagine I know, people had tractors back then too.

So, plausible as it might sound to ascribe some of the causality to flow from "the physical activity transition", I don't think it holds up.

Why does it not apply?

So... I had a look at Eureka CA weather this morning. Looks like Western Norway. Nice. Spending July and August up there might be mandatory for our mental health.

We spent 3 years in Tempe back in the '80s. It sucked then too.

The word "dimension" is chosen to be so vague that you can surely do it. I would be easy to impress.