Usually it can be that the complex artifact is the simplest to implement. It's harder to make the simple thing

Classic, Rich Hicky, "simple made, easy" talk reference.

I think there is almost a split between people who have read ZAOMM and people who have not.

I recently made a post in my circles about how "meaning" is what human quality is. If you look at classical art a lot of it could look objectively nonsense and have technical mistakes, but just because the machine can make a picture does not mean that it attributes any meaning or communicate any intention. The difference between human-made classical artwork and machine-made classical artwork is the meaning and symbology behind it

Yeah this is precisely the exact opposite of what the article is talking about.

An LLM can't find anything interesting except that it parroted the word interesting from prior written human text.

Our only reference point with an alien philosophy would be that we can only approach it from human basis

"A philosophy of LLMs" - has no reference point without being grounded in human experience.

It is only meaningful when we apply what it means to humans.

"a philosophy of a bash script." does not make sense. Only "philosophy of the action of writing the bash script, of which this is an artifact of" - the human who wrote it intentionally.

LLMs apply statistics to mash inputs and produce outputs, almost like `cat` with extra steps: We can't ask for "what was the philosophy behind the action `cat` applied" - why would we bother asking about the philosophy of an LLM? Better questions would be the philosophy of those who prompt it, built it, the material that went into it, the people who write the safeguards, the people who architected it. Etc.

It is not an isolated environment without reference points.

I'm not trying to be rude but I gave you the answers. Alien philosophy is irrelevant to us because we're not aliens. Tree philosophy is irrelevant to us because we're not trees. Dolphin philosophy is irrelevant to us because we're not dolphins, etc.

Everything else you mentioned is "hallucinatory" and you need to probably have a break from screens for a while.

As a legitimate exercise, go ponder the philosophy of a bash script. Think about philosophy of trees in a forest vs trees in a plantation. You'll find it and see how silly you're being

Philosophy is a intrinsically human thing. It has to be. That is the whole point. There really is nothing else.

Plants feel and experience things too. But there's no philosophy of the plant experience from the point of view of the plant, because why would there be?

The fact that we have a pattern recognizing word generator print out the words "I am alive" does not lead to some broader philosophical point, except for hysteria and delusions, which probably fit more along sociology instead.

Some things are allowed to be obvious. It's a series of bits and bytes.

As someone who had family members go through gambling addiction this is the primary mechanism behind it.

Addicts don't see it as "cool fun dopamine kicks" but instead find it the only way they can get back to normal/where they are supposed to be