You're correct, this sounds more like an after-school math club.

> I loved olympiad-style problems. The non-trivial ones. The kind where you sit with a problem for an hour, try three wrong approaches, and then something clicks. That feeling. I’d like kids to experience that early.

Math Kangaroo is an international organization that promotes mathematical problem solving through logical thinking in children. https://mathkangaroo.org/mks/about-math-kangaroo/

> We’d explore patterns, [...] invariants, creative geometry, counting tricks,

Math Kangaroo holds a competition every year. Their question papers for the past several years are available for sale. You can take a look at some of the questions from last year's exam and see if they fit into your categories of patterns, creative geometry, etc: https://mathkangaroo.org/mks/practice/free-question-samples/ https://www.thethinkacademy.com/blog/2025-math-kangaroo-real... If so, you can base your math club on solving these problems, or analogous ones that you come up with yourself.

> The focus wouldn’t be speed or grades, but depth and alternative approaches.

You can use educational toys from the company Learning Resources. They help to provide materials that children can hold and manipulate in their hands, establishing a neural pathway to abstract thinking for the same concept. For example, here is one that uses pegs and rubber bands to teach concepts in shapes, symmetry, angles, and fractions: https://www.amazon.com/Learning-Resources-Double-Sided-Assor...

> We’d explore [...] strategy, [...] maybe even some early economics and decision theory.

There are board games that are excellent for teaching these concepts. Many of them have been awarded 'Game of the Year' and 'Mensa Select' awards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mensa_Select_recipient...

You can select almost any from this list but here are the ones I have seen in various after-school math clubs:

(A) Matching colors, shapes and sizes under constraints

1. Sequence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence_(game)

2. Qwirkle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwirkle

3. Blokus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blokus

4. Gobblet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobblet

5. Azul https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azul_(board_game)

6. Rubik's Race https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXZ8B8B8

(B) Territory control

7. Hive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_(game)

8. Battle Sheep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Sheep

9. Reversi / Othello https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversi

10. Pylos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pylos_(board_game)

11. Santorini https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini_(game)

(C) Path Algorithms

12. Tsuro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsuro

13. Ticket to Ride https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Ticket_to_Ride_(board_game)

(D) Rules-based moves

14. Checkers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkers

15. Viking Chess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tafl_games

16. Stratego https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratego

17. Chi Shogi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chu_shogi

18. Five Crowns https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Crowns_(card_game)

19. Flip 7 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DWGVM7RY

(E) Early Economics and Decision Theory

20. Catan Junior https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007N0KZ64

21. My First Stone Age https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CSJ7IKA

(F) Mathematical Concepts

22. Snakes and Ladders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snakes_and_ladders

23. Proof! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5TKRL8

24. SkyJo https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XZ9K244

25. SET https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00000IV34

26. Prime Climb https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PG9590G

27. Pentago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentago

There are board game cafes where you can drop in to see the latest craze.

> If you were building this as an MVP: 1. Would you pilot a short 4–6 week program? 2. What age group would you target 3. How much curriculum do you design before you start?

Take a look at the Brain Quest Workbooks (8 book series) and get an idea of the general curriculum prescribed at each level Pre-K through Grade 6. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09D7ZJPG4

I expect you would design at least as much curriculum as you need to match the Common Core State Standards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Core

> 4. How important are credentials vs demonstrated ability?

There are many organizations that provide STEAM-oriented after-school enrichment classes to school children. You can contact them and see if you could work with them, offering your uniquely designed curriculum. You could build up your ability to teach while conducting the classes. At the same time, you could enroll in online classes for teacher training to build up your credentials.

> If you’ve started a math circle, tutoring program, micro-school or anything similar, I’d really appreciate hearing what worked, what didn’t, and what you wish you’d known at the beginning.

1. The Math Revolution: The number of American teens who excel at advanced math has surged. Why? | Peg Tyre | March 2016 https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/03/the-mat... https://archive.ph/oJK4D

2. Raising Problem Solvers podcast hosted by Art of Problem Solving (AoPS) https://artofproblemsolving.com/blog/podcasts/raising-proble...

3. Let's teach for mastery -- not test scores | Sal Khan, founder Khan Academy | TED Talk, November 2015 https://www.ted.com/talks/sal_khan_let_s_teach_for_mastery_n...

(Disclaimer: Not affiliated in any way to any of the organizations mentioned above.)

The Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden in Miami, Florida (mentioned in the podcast episode) has been hosting a Mango Festival for nearly 30 years. https://fairchildgarden.org/events/mango-festival/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Tropical_Botanic_Gar...

Try the IKEA JOKKMOKK. Made with solid pine and stained with clear lacquer. https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/jokkmokk-table-and-4-chairs-ant...

It's a really good toaster, surprisingly. Still going strong for me, even after 4 years.

There is an electric kettle in the same brand series, also very good. I still use it several times a day.

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Cafe latte, tall, non-fat milk, one splenda. (This is fairly zero calorie.)

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Ask for it to be made with Reserve beans.

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