Hacker News: eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=eyvindnHacker News RSShttps://hnrss.org/hnrss v2.1.1Sat, 15 Aug 2026 18:15:37 +0000<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>the unity/minecraft level of abstraction is a common one in AFIFE, and too often ends up being Spore - looking and behaving in very interesting ways, but remaining just that. those approaches are on the wrong side of the performance vs evolvability curve - scale is a necessary ingredient and running things at a physics sim level is just too taxing.

it is of course entirely possible we are on the flip side and too low-level - this is something we're trying to find out.

]]>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:51:42 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48990589eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48990589https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48990589<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>yes! very soon!

]]>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:44:09 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48990528eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48990528https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48990528<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>this is my personal take;

I agree, for the same reasons you mentioned, resource constraints will need to be baked in (they are already, to some extent, if you consider the constrained resource to be z80-CPU-seconds the program has access to). something more akin to energy in our real world, which can be manipulated, aggregated, shared, pooled, stolen, etc feels more natural, however.

imo meaningful intelligence could conceivably developed in a soup (even in-silico), unclear on what timeline, but grounding it with human and/or real-world data is necessary to make it useful to us (bio-compatible, if you will?)

]]>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 15:00:36 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979827eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979827https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979827<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>there are many bottlenecks in the substrate - memory limits being one of them. other things like the A-B concatenation inherited from the bff paper also severely limit the possible dynamics. understanding and avoiding these bottlenecks are some of our next steps!

]]>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:52:15 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979687eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979687https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979687<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>as other folks have replied, Z80 is more expressive and yields more interesting replicators faster. however the question of how complex to make the "base layer", if you will, remains open. we expect it to also be an ease of auto-evolution vs. performance tradeoff.

second question is a good question :)

]]>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 14:42:16 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979559eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979559https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48979559<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>authors here - happy to answer any questions! we’re excited for this line of work and see this as the first step on a longer journey.

]]>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 11:00:12 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966865eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966865https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966865<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Co-evolution of self-replication and function in a digital primordial soup"]]>^ yes. this is what we hope.

]]>Sun, 19 Jul 2026 10:56:52 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966843eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966843https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48966843<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Differentiable Logic Cellular Automata"]]>:)

]]>Fri, 07 Mar 2025 12:43:19 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289705eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289705https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289705<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Differentiable Logic Cellular Automata"]]>colab with all code will be available next week, will add link from the article.

]]>Fri, 07 Mar 2025 12:39:58 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289681eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289681https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289681<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Differentiable Logic Cellular Automata"]]>thanks for catching this, the figure for the target was inverted when exporting for publication, corrected now.

]]>Fri, 07 Mar 2025 12:38:59 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289677eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289677https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43289677<![CDATA[Differentiable Logic Cellular Automata]]>Article URL: https://google-research.github.io/self-organising-systems/difflogic-ca/?hn

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]]>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 23:43:37 +0000https://google-research.github.io/self-organising-systems/difflogic-ca/?hneyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43286161https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43286161<![CDATA[computronium – differentiable learning of stateful binary circuits]]>Article URL: https://google-research.github.io/self-organising-systems/difflogic-ca/

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]]>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 20:04:23 +0000https://google-research.github.io/self-organising-systems/difflogic-ca/eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43284545https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43284545<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "DARPA exploring growing bio structures of "unprecedented size" in microgravity"]]>could you link the drone swarm command article?

]]>Tue, 04 Mar 2025 22:35:13 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43260529eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43260529https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43260529<![CDATA[What Is Intelligence? – Antikythera]]>Article URL: https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/#nca

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]]>Thu, 31 Oct 2024 15:54:08 +0000https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/#ncaeyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42008122https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42008122<![CDATA[What Is Life? – Antikythera]]>Article URL: https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/#snake

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]]>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 20:11:33 +0000https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/#snakeeyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41975667https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41975667<![CDATA[What Is Life? – Antikythera]]>Article URL: https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/

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]]>Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:31:45 +0000https://whatisintelligence.antikythera.org/eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41971402https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41971402<![CDATA[Particle Lenia and the energy-based formulation]]>Article URL: https://google-research.github.io/self-organising-systems/particle-lenia/

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]]>Fri, 23 Dec 2022 18:00:33 +0000https://google-research.github.io/self-organising-systems/particle-lenia/eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34108745https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34108745<![CDATA[Particle Lenia: Self Organising Particles]]>Article URL: https://twitter.com/zzznah/status/1606294595330940928

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]]>Fri, 23 Dec 2022 17:58:47 +0000https://twitter.com/zzznah/status/1606294595330940928eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34108724https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34108724<![CDATA[New comment by eyvindn in "Adversarial Reprogramming of Neural Cellular Automata"]]>Authors here - will do our best to answer any questions.

]]>Thu, 06 May 2021 22:02:04 +0000https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27069559eyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27069559https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27069559<![CDATA[Adversarial Reprogramming of Neural Cellular Automata]]>Article URL: https://distill.pub/selforg/2021/adversarial

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]]>Thu, 06 May 2021 19:46:36 +0000https://distill.pub/selforg/2021/adversarialeyvindnhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27068236https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27068236