The point of the Turing Test is that if there is no extrinsic difference between a human and a machine the intrinsic difference is moot for practical purposes. That is not an argument to whether a machine (with linear algebra, machine learning, large language models, or any other method) can think or what constitutes thinking or consciousness.

The Chinese Room thought experiment is a compliment on the intrinsic side of the comparison: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

> For example, if a user with appropriate privileges mistakenly runs ‘rm -rf / tmp/junk’, that may remove all files on the entire system. Since there are so few legitimate uses for such a command, GNU rm normally declines to operate on any directory that resolves to /. If you really want to try to remove all the files on your system, you can use the --no-preserve-root option, but the default behavior, specified by the --preserve-root option, is safer for most purposes.

https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/Trea...

> Any piece of digital information is representable as a number; consequently, if communicating a specific set of information is illegal in some way, then the number may be illegal as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number

> An AACS encryption key (09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0) that came to prominence in May 2007 is an example of a number claimed to be a secret, and whose publication or inappropriate possession is claimed to be illegal in the United States.

LLMs / Generative Models can have a profound societal and economic impact without being intelligent. The obsession with intelligence only make their use haphazard and dangerous.

It is a good thing court of laws have established precedent that organizations deploying LLM chatbots are responsible for their output (Eg, Air Canada LLM chatbot promising a non-existent discount being responsibility of Air Canada)

Also most automation has been happening without LLMs/Generative Models. Things like better vision systems have had an enormous impact with industrial automation and QA.

There are at least the following claims:

- Inserts its own affiliate link (even when no discount is found, uses strategies to push for interaction like adding a dismiss/pay with paypal link that adds the affiliate association)

- Adds a very small kickback from the affiliate payment they receive as a rewards program. (Which, while scraps, makes content creators "lose" in economic terms in the affiliate offerings)

- Promises to consumers to find the best discounts available

- Promises to vendors to allow control of the discounts offered and the offer rate of said discounts

- Previous both promises are contradictory yet simultaneously offered

- An extra/upcoming claim around forcing non-affiliated stores to affiliate.

Please don't, just let them.

Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

That is simple to do but not something many companies want to do. Just give employees equity via mutualisation. (Real ownership not discourse ownership)

Edit: it was a dig to the pro-competition façade some pro-business people put forward.

Take out the stick like in Latin America and the Middle East?

Laughable from the country that proclaims itself "leader of the free world"

Though, most of the world has quite the different experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2khAmMTAjI

- Why should one be held liable or have a legal obligation to the customers of the megacorp?

- Why would one even be afraid of being sued by the customers of the megacorp? (other than if we lived in an otherwise draconian society)

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Aditionally the comment you are replying to is a dongle to provide a single board computer (or a computer in general) with ZigBee conectivity.

Ideally you would run a trusthworthy open source OS and hub software.

https://docs.scala-lang.org/scala3/reference/other-new-featu...

> Wednesday May 18 2033 03:33:20 GMT

Nothing like a system that produces a high amount of marginalized / vulnerable people and then blames them for going for "easy" money like drugs or prostitution.

I would expect the tech crowd here to be more inclined towards blameless postmortems / systemic safety.