<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: gacgacgac</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=gacgacgac</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2026 07:24:03 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=gacgacgac" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gacgacgac in "AI Hiring Tools Yield Racial Bias and Systemic Rejection; 26% Black & 15% Asian"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Double check the link. The study clearly looked at resumes.</p>
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<p>Nothing in this has any bias in it?  Which words are you suggesting are biased? This study measured constructed resumes where only names were changed, and observed the rate each group was favored (the percentage of resumes that passed). One group must be "most favored" because thats how math works. It's the group whose percentage was the highest. The resumes were fictional and equivalent across race, only the names were changed.</p>
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<p>You are reading a paper without understanding the language of the paper. Adverse Impact has a specific meaning, and in this case it's specifically meaning that Black candidates were selected only four fifths as often as white candidates when their qualifications were identical. The study is only suggesting that further investigation is warranted.</p>
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<p>Name. Other factors were controlled.</p>
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<p>Please read the study or at least the comments here before jumping to the conclusion. Yes, they used constructed resumes, so the qualifications were exactly the same. And no, literally no one is suggesting this proves racial discrimination. It's applying the four fifths rule, a fast, coarse evaluation that is used to identify if <i>maybe</i> theres worth investigating more for a conclusive evidence of racial discrimination.<p>The authors are saying it's worth doing more research, because in a controlled data set the results appear unbalanced.</p>
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<p>You are misreading this sentence. This sentence is saying: "Using a constructed dataset of resumes, whose only difference was a name change, we would anticipate a system evaluating on qualifications to produce an equal distribution of candidates across names. Our observed result was highly unequal, and that warrants further investigation."</p>
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<p>Yes. You missed it. They are using a test dataset of 83k resumes generated in 2022 for this paper and comparing it as a baseline against their observational data: <a href="https://www.nber.org/papers/w29053" rel="nofollow">https://www.nber.org/papers/w29053</a><p>The dataset is constructed, deliberately, to hold candidate performance constant and vary the names of candidates to appear to be associated with a specific race.</p>
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<p>It's not used to measure discrimination. It's used to identify outcomes that appear to be potentially discriminatory. You have to do the legwork afterwards.<p>Like. If I am evaluating a developer on lines of code written, I am a bad manager. But if an engineer has 40% fewer lines of code than the team median, it's absolutely ok for me to go, "Interesting. What's the story there? Are they slower or is there some other factor?"<p>Same idea -- this is purely a fast, first pass metric that can quickly assess if something warrants a deeper evaluation.</p>
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<p>Importantly, the rule is not used to resolve racial discrimination claims. It's purely meant as the first test to evaluate whether a deeper dive is warranted. Fast, first pass data analysis tools are very useful for spotting unintended consequences.</p>
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<p>Have you googled this? The EEOC is a federal agency, and they've published on this topic quite extensively. The four fifths rule is used to define if there is a "substantially different selection rate". It does not measure racial discrimination. It measures selection rate.<p>It indicates there <i>may be</i> adverse impact to one group. It specifically is not used to resolve racial discrimination.<p>It's purely a signal for "we should consider asking more questions, because this appears unusual". That's what your quote says too, it "flags" a low recommendation -- it's indicating further study and investigation is likely warranted.</p>
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<p>Cops pulling someone over is never "fun and whimsy".</p>
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<p>Nordics, Costa Rica, Australia and New Zealand.</p>
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<p>Communism is not "when the government does stuff", and "the more the government does, the more communist it is".</p>
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<p>I think it's plausible China and US invert in that calculus over the next 30 years. The median US person (anecdotally) feels to me like they are getting worse and worse stakes. $45k a year is not a lot these days. Chinese are investing heavily in infrastructure in a way that's appearing to build a healthy amount of economic potential. Whereas the US is... struggling. Global happiness index scores for China and Vietnam have risen dramatically, while the US is sliding down.<p>But I could be wrong. Maybe there will be a reversion.</p>
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<p>Anarchism exists within socialism too-- the anti Francoist anarchists in Spain who were crushed by Soviets for doing the wrong kind of socialism, for example. Kropotkin's approach and anarcho syndacalism is anti-statist, and also anti-capitalist.<p>Anarchism is a complex area that can be capitalist, socialist, individualist, collectivist, primitivist, techno..logist? Basically, like communism, anarchism doesn't have just one flavor.</p>
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<p>I ... actually agree with this. But I think we gotta deliberately select who that applies to. Is it <i>everyone</i> at Meta? Like, are we all culpable for our employers sins? Or are we all squeezed by a system where we gotta work to eat and the people who decide what jobs exist are the capital class?<p>Like, obviously cops aren't workers, but what level of culpability does a person working in Meta's disability accommodations team have? I dunno. Hard question.</p>
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<p>I think you can look at different lenses of success. Vietnam successfully defeated a much, much more powerful imperial force. They have fewer freedoms, and are still recovering from the generational damage dealt to them, and they are hardly without plenty of valid criticisms. But they've had successes.<p>China is a major global power. I think you'd have to accept that China is <i>successful</i>, even if that success doesn't reach every person. And I think it's fair to point at China and ask just how communist it <i>really</i> is. (Then again, I think it's fair to point at the US and ask how idealistically capitalist they are.)<p>Cuba has some of the highest literacy rates in the world, they have a developed medical care system with lower infant mortality, high vaccination rates, and they have developed their own effective vaccines for things like covid. They've eliminated measles. They enjoy a longer life expectancy than US citizens. And they've achieved those successes with an embargo that has made it difficult for Cuba to trade globally.<p>This is why I was probing for rubrics, because I think one can definitely find success in communist governments, and you'll also find corruption. And you'll find crime and war. And there's no clear story of "across all axes they are successful".<p>Would I rather live in any of these? It's complicated! I think there are very few countries right now that are primarily focused on the welfare of their people.</p>
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<p>I'll argue -- socialist is not the same as communist. Norway is not a communist country (despite arguably being a socialist one).</p>
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<p>Workers are workers. We have so much more in common with one another than we do with the capital class.<p>Turning against a worker because they are doing better than another worker is giving in the divide and rule.<p>Historically, this is exactly how factory owners tried to get the white and Black workers to schism rather than unionize.<p>Workers deserve workers rights, and we should have solidarity towards all workers.</p>
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<p>This is the end goal of one form of communism, but certainly not <i>the</i> end goal of communism. Many communists want a strong state and see a single party as desirable.</p>
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