<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: gertlabs</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=gertlabs</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 05:13:22 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=gertlabs" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[Decompressible Oracle Generators]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Article URL: <a href="https://gertlabs.com/blog/decompressible-oracle-generators">https://gertlabs.com/blog/decompressible-oracle-generators</a></p>
<p>Comments URL: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50239354">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50239354</a></p>
<p>Points: 2</p>
<p># Comments: 0</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 05:02:06 +0000</pubDate><link>https://gertlabs.com/blog/decompressible-oracle-generators</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50239354</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50239354</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Gemini 4 Argon"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We take a few samples across 11 programming languages including Python, Rust, C++, Javascript, and we saw a few reasoning text issues that didn't seem to have a statistically significant language-specific pattern.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 16:26:59 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090312</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090312</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090312</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Gemini 4 Argon"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Unfortunately no multimodal testing, yet. In progress</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 16:22:27 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090202</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090202</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50090202</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Gemini 4 Argon"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>A custom harness modeled after Pi, and we also evaluate solutions to one-shot coding problems</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 08:59:02 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50084517</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50084517</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50084517</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Gemini 4 Argon"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We evaluated Gemini 4 Argon in 100 unsaturated, competitive and cooperative coding environments. It's roughly in between Fable 5 and Fable 5.1 in our testing, so it's maybe 2 months behind the frontier.<p>Google's major releases have usually done pretty well on our benchmarks because they're good at hard problems and open-ended decision making (with a well specified prompt), which obviously doesn't always translate to user experience. In particular, older Google models struggled to work efficiently in a harness. They seem to have solved that with Argon.<p>We did see a new problem which I hope they can fix. This is the first near-frontier model we've caught in infinite reasoning loops in a long time. We also saw a few examples of it failing to properly delineate reasoning blocks, so it has a higher failure rate than its competitors.<p>My overall impression is that Argon is a near-frontier model for engineering design, code analysis, and chat. It definitely has the intelligence to be a competitive coding assistant product, but a good coding assistant needs to be polished, so I hope they can clean up the CoT bugs.<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 07:42:01 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083864</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083864</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50083864</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We tested it across 100 unsaturated coding and engineering environments. Both Astra and 6.1-Sol are pretty comfortably ahead of Opus 5.5 in these types of evaluations, and both end up being cheaper than Opus via API usage. 6.1-Sol is also cheaper than Sonnet 5.5 and much smarter. The only verifiable domain Anthropic seems to be clearly ahead is chemistry (and perhaps also some unverifiable domains like being pleasant to work with, since GPT-6 models have a tendency to be low initiative beyond what the prompt tells them). Highly recommend using the OpenAI Flex endpoint for any API work.<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2026 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49910597</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49910597</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49910597</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Artificial intelligence now beats some of the best human forecasters"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We measure skill differentiation between frontier / last-gen LLMs across our environments, and one of our curated coding environments is a closed-system market simulator, containing only other agents and some system participants (a market maker and a liquidity provider via issuance / buybacks) whose behavior is fully defined for all of the agents.<p>This has the least measured skill differentiation of all of our environments, and not because forecasting/markets don't require skill or intelligence. Even the best models are so far from anticipating the behavior of the other agents and understanding the emergent effects that a 2025 model with a naive strategy can often outperform over the timeframes of the simulation simply because some other models in the simulation chose a similar self-reinforcing strategy. This likely happens to some degree in real markets.<p>You can watch these simulations here <a href="https://gertlabs.com/spectate?game=market" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/spectate?game=market</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49744712</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49744712</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49744712</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "DeepSeek v4.1 Flash Is Now Our Best Hacking Model"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We ran v4.1 Flash through our evaluations and found it to be smarter and faster than V4 Flash, with a commensurate price bump. Some notes:<p>- Because it's a heavy reasoner, it sits near Gemini 3.7 Flash on the Pareto front (not as cheap as the price suggests in practice).<p>- Closer than expected to the top open weights models (GLM 5.3 and Kimi K3) in agentic coding, at lower cost.<p>- Chinese models have always been strong iterators in an agentic harness. This model is no different, reaching an average percentile ~20% higher when given a harness vs a one-shot solution. That one-shot fluid intelligence is what makes a model feel smart, though, and typically results in fewer attempts/tokens to solve a problem, and American frontier models are still far ahead in that department.<p>The new architecture is interesting. It puts pricing between their old Flash and Pro lineups, suggesting they might be abandoning their super-cheap flash models (which weren't that fast due to heavy reasoning) and their pro models (which sort of flopped and weren't consistently better than their flash models, despite the size/cost) and shipping a strong intermediate that competes with the Gemini Flash series.<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2026 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49730270</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49730270</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49730270</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Mercury 2.5"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Inception is one of the most interesting neolabs with their diffusion-based architectures. My understanding is that their primary business is low latency voice applications but they are seriously pursuing coding.<p>We tested Mercury 2.5 Preview, which is nowhere close to the frontier (and not advertised as such), but it's actually usable as a general-purpose chatbot. It's comparable in problem solving ability to some last-gen open weights models, and the price and cost make it compelling. However, they have not figured out general purpose tool use and agentic coding (their model performs worse on our problems when given a custom harness). If they do, I see a lot of real-time applications that the speed and cost will enable.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 21:20:49 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49617237</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49617237</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49617237</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "An Alien Mind"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>The results we've been seeing internally on our physics and circuit design environments are expert-level and beyond-expert-level results from models that Astra completely outclasses across the board on our evaluation suite (Fable 5+/Opus 5/Grok 4.6 were all worthy of being called AGI in my opinion). That's hard tech that will translate to real product innovation.<p>But you don't need any kind of insider information to see how fast the world is changing. ChatGPT launched less than 4 years ago and the advances in robotics, unsolved maths, and software are all riding the steepest exponential improvement curve any of us have seen. Interesting times we live in.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 00:46:27 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49592510</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49592510</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49592510</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "An Alien Mind"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>> Delivering the benefits of scientific progress and economic growth that very intelligent machines enable.<p>I think we're very close to the point where AI-driven breakthroughs outside of pure math and software start to really affect the world.<p>We evaluated GPT-6 Astra in 100 complex, unsaturated multi-agent coding environments, competing and cooperating with other models in open-ended tasks.<p>It's the new frontier model by a landslide. It's even more dominant than the Fable 5 release, because not only does it wipe the floor with the second best model (Fable 5.1), it was also ~80% cheaper and 30% faster in agentic coding[1].<p>Astra is a groundbreaking model. The biggest breakthrough since Opus 4.5, maybe even since GPT 4. It broke AAII, which is hitting the limits of what most popular benchmarks can measure -- it's definitely fair to call it AGI.<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a><p>(1) Note that we used the "OpenAI Flex" endpoint on openrouter, which is half the price and didn't cause any delays in our testing (this is different from the batch endpoint)</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2026 18:27:32 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49589372</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49589372</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49589372</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "GLM-5.3 (open-weight) beat Anthropic/OpenAI models – for 1/5 the cost"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>One problem is that $30 per run is really noisy for many verifiable tasks. Ours usually run at least an order of magnitude more for a model in GLM 5.3's price class.<p>We just published GLM 5.3 results on our multi-agent coding evaluations and it's definitely an impressive model, coming in around #6. For the price, it's actually not Pareto optimal, falling slightly behind Grok 4.6 (which is faster and the same price) and Sol 5.6 (which uses far fewer thinking tokens for comparable results). As with most Chinese models, it excels at iterating in a harness while its first answer/base fluid intelligence is below the American frontier.<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2026 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49410555</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49410555</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49410555</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[Creating Reliable AI for an Adversarial World]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>Article URL: <a href="https://gertlabs.com/blog/adversarial-customer-service">https://gertlabs.com/blog/adversarial-customer-service</a></p>
<p>Comments URL: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379846">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379846</a></p>
<p>Points: 2</p>
<p># Comments: 0</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2026 20:30:36 +0000</pubDate><link>https://gertlabs.com/blog/adversarial-customer-service</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379846</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379846</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Ornith-1.5: From Self-Scaffolding to Self-Improvement"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>These models have gotten a fair amount of attention -- we're hoping it's enough to get them added to some reliable inference providers and OpenRouter, at which point we'll run them on our full benchmark suite.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49365667</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49365667</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49365667</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "Go is an ideal language for AI-assisted software engineering"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We've seen a pretty consistent pattern in our evaluations where Go is among the languages that models perform worst with (alongside Python), for reasons unclear. Our coding evaluations are typically measuring the foresight and planning expressed in code that is run in interactive environments/games.<p>This trend has been there since we started evaluating models using different languages in February 2026 and if anything, the disparity has grown in frontier models. Even Google models prefer Kotlin/C#/Rust for coming up with creative ideas (compilation success is a different story). Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a><p>That being said, models love to recommend Go, and Go does have a lot going for it, especially if you are serving a public-facing website. So most of our public facing API handlers are written in Go, and we offload some of our most important binaries to Rust. There are just too many reasons not to use the languages that models think a little more effectively in.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:06:28 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49267716</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49267716</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49267716</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "When AI Benchmarks Plateau: A Systematic Study of Benchmark Saturation"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>SlimeBallBench? Looks cool, love the implementation! You would most likely need a LOT of environments like these if your goal was selling them to labs</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2026 03:35:25 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192132</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192132</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192132</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "When AI Benchmarks Plateau: A Systematic Study of Benchmark Saturation"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>The reality is that cost is the primary constraint for the public benchmark we provide. While we run enough samples to get results that are generally quite accurate on average, we only produce ~10 coding submissions per language for each model and those are across random environments, which naturally has noise. Plus that's split between agentic coding sessions and one-shot coding.<p>So just adding a language or tag filter can result in some pretty small sample sizes. You can see how many samples survived in the box plot, but that's probably bad UX that most people never see. There's a reason no other benchmark provides this type of data (even for our sample sizes it runs almost 10K USD/month to keep up to date with new releases).<p>Might be a good idea to reduce the ability to apply filters into a cohort with less than ~20 samples -- not the first time we've gotten that feedback. Seems like adding too many options to see individual sample variation is just misdirecting. I'm a nerd who loves data so I hate removing access, especially since the aggregate performance is very interesting (averaged across all languages, we see consistent and interesting performance data across models, like models outperforming with strongly typed languages). But tbh I think you're right and we'll try limiting filters to where we actually have statistically significant data.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175550</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175550</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49175550</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "When AI Benchmarks Plateau: A Systematic Study of Benchmark Saturation"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>That's a different problem than benchmark saturation, and it's something that we are actively working on measuring objectively.<p>I agree that Opus 5 is not a great model, despite being clearly intelligent. It seems like a personality problem in user-driven agentic coding workflows, not a real capability issue. Not incorporating unspoken user intent, going off topic, incorporating some of the pedantry you find in GPT 5.x models, etc.<p>That's also likely why Opus 5 ranks low on our "Social Intelligence" benchmark (<a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings?mode=decision" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings?mode=decision</a>), although sample sizes on this one are still low.</p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49172332</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49172332</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49172332</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "When AI Benchmarks Plateau: A Systematic Study of Benchmark Saturation"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>I started thinking about this back after the Llama 4 release, and since then our team has put a lot of thought into designing evaluations that don't saturate, are resistant to contamination, and can scale. What has worked best for us is using multi-agent environments with open-ended cooperative or competitive goals. Mostly designed as multiplayer games. The results tend to align with our experience for coding better than any non-aggregator benchmark, and likely at lower cost to run.<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a></p>
]]></description><pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 17:13:01 +0000</pubDate><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49171826</link><dc:creator>gertlabs</dc:creator><comments>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49171826</comments><guid isPermaLink="false">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49171826</guid></item><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by gertlabs in "ARC-AGI Leaderboard"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>We run an evaluation that is designed to be less vulnerable to benchmaxxing because there aren't correct solutions; agents are interacting in the same environment as other agents. And it's private, and our public benchmark is not well known enough for anyone to probably care to benchmax us yet. So I think it's pretty indicative of true relative aptitude.<p>All models have probably memorized significant swaths of solution sets for popular benchmarks at this point, either accidentally or intentionally, so it's all relative at this point. However, in our experience, Chinese models do benchmax harder. This is also consistent with interacting with Chinese labs soliciting data/environments, who literally asked us for datasets and tasks modeled around and formatted like popular benchmarks.<p>Opus 5 will be uploaded tomorrow, but we already have the tests locally and it is truly as capable as Fable, but at 81% of the real cost. (And from subjective usage, it has a very different personality)<p>Data at <a href="https://gertlabs.com/rankings" rel="nofollow">https://gertlabs.com/rankings</a></p>
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