How I wish I could divulge details of what we’ve built, nay, shipped in the last 6 months - it would sound completely unbelievable to this audience and come with a host of accusations

But it’s true - the tide hasn’t risen all ships the same though. Some engineers have become absolute monsters - things that used to take a month get done in days. Features that used to be prioritized on the order of weeks are done way faster.

Some engineers though? Even high performance ones have gone productive to bottom 25% by some measures

Why? Because it is a skill and it doesn’t come naturally to everyone

So many may sayers everywhere talking about more code less software, mistakes by ai with disastrous consequences- yet I’ve seen some remarkable stuff with my own two eyes. It’s a crazy time to be in this business, it’s awesome to be wowed everyday by what someone was able to do

They leave a bunch of data sharing options built in and on by default with no warning, acknowledgement, etc and I suspect it's why asus lets the project continue to run

I'd be less disgruntled about it if a) i feel like i got my money's worth and most importantly b) everyone paid their fair share

If you've ever worked at a startup, you're probably familiar with the fact that no one gives a crap about this type of stuff early on

The hell with pretty much anything, the only thing that matters is revenue

People only start to care about this after the fact if you've grown to large enough size

If you think stuff like this or right to be deleted stuff is moving the needle anywhere but at the biggest companies, you've been misled

That's the real painful truth of this stuff, most of the time it's just lip service anyway

Wth is anyone going to do anyway? Go through a resource-draining lawsuit against a 20 person company where it will take a year of discovery just to maybe-sort-of prove they've been mishandling your data?

It's going to take some pretty radical new laws for this type of stuff to ever have any meaningful impact

I use a personal Claude account for personal projects and can let rabl run for an hour and barely make a dent into my usage

On the enterprise I have to be a lot more careful or I can burn through 2k in a week

The excuse they give is the guarantees you get with enterprise plans that they won’t look at your data

The whole sleep hygiene things been sort of discredited and doctors just follow a script with like 5 things they will prescribe you for sleep problems and after those 5 things it’s like oh well we tried

I once showed them a study I found online in a reputable journal (at least the study was conducted by someone from a well regarded university in a journal that wasn’t obviously bad)

The doctor didn’t even look at the study, he just saw where it came from and said “yeah we don’t use that journal”

I would have much more appreciated an answer if I don’t have time to read your bullshit vs what he gave me

Right now I don’t care, I just never plug anything into my network

I don’t want to have to mod all my shit just to remove data collection stuff this way

Cars already do this and it’s a bitch to disable, can’t imagine having to do it every time I buy a blender, coffee maker, knife sharpener, tv, light bulb, speakers etc etc

I’ve asked at rapidlu growing unicorns where I’ve worked “why don’t we ipo” and the big wigs every time just say, “why?”

If the original point of the ipo was to raise money and now you can do that privately, it stands to reason that a simple explanation might be that it’s not worth the hassle until the VC’s say they want their money back

I exactly. If you can’t tell the difference and AI and human “consciousness” are functionally the same to you, then what are you trying to prove?

I get it if you’re a researcher or simply pondering the question, but otherwise there are better questions to ask imo.

That’s the real comparison in my opinion

I get the whole apprenticeship route, but even that isn’t the same

Specifically what I mean is what if a teenager took 4 years to really home a skill before even looking for a job?

If you wanted to be an electrician and spent a couple years really learning from somewhat first principles up and keep yourself in good shape, you’d be set up for success

The article makes it seem like someone who would be smart enough to go to college and graduate wouldn’t be smart enough to navigate how to get an electrician job or pass those aptitude tests?

Also, a lot of trades people simply don’t take care of themselves. I’m not saying the job isn’t hard, because it is. My dad was a contractor and I worked on the sites every summer til I graduated college

But these dudes would eat like crap, skip ear protection, prove how manly they were by working to exhaustion - this only makes the “these hands” lectures worse

All in all the article felt scattered much like my own comment

The truth is, there are some people who go to college who should have gone into the trades in stead. I’d go on a limb and say I’m sure of it. (And the answer isn’t purely based on intelligence which the author touches on condescendingly)

Similarly, I’m sure a lot of kids who go into the trades would have been better off going to college

What’s missing imo is guidance

What kids imo need is guidance, someone to give them exposure to what’s out there in some way, lay out options, pros, cons and help kids make an informed decision

The real problem is that there are so many professions that people simply don’t know about - instead of telling people to go to college or scare them away from trades, I’d be pushing to introduce more of these resources to high schools. No kid at my high school would have ever known what a business systems analyst is or what firmware is.

I can handle issues much better if they are predictable even if the model makes mistakes — much more frustrating when the model is erratic

I find codex wanders off road more often and fails to see the “bigger picture” (as much as LLMs can see the bigger picture at least)

And tbh when it was first released Astral felt even worse

I’m being forced to use it right now and at the end of the day I’m making do so it’s fine, but Claude makes for a smoother experience

Your kind is what makes the internet shit, not AI

Why is it so black and white?

Same or next day shipping on most things I order is wild, when something goes beyond a 2-3 days on Amazon it even feels odd

And the “do you actually need the item/s that fast” isn’t the response I am looking for

I genuinely forget I’m not using Google until I come across articles like this

I’m not always in the best areas so this def comes up for me personally

Outside of that I think I’d give this a shot

Like no one is above reproach and def everyone is open to criticism, it to open a thread with 1200 comments and see this as the first comment was super annoying

So much stuff to discuss and we are focusing on some presenters tone? jfc

Just curious, how exactly do you propose they do this instead?

Rent out a convention center, open invitation, and then still complain when all xxK slots are taken up?

Or do it virtually and inundate these startups with thousands of requests and get mad when half don’t get responded to?

Outlaw private capital altogether and force people to IPO to raise money? And then what, complain when only a fraction of those companies work out and the average guy with an E*trade account not in on the joke gets screwed over and over?

At least YC takes applicants and the process is somewhat transparent

Of course there’s a (prob big) element of who you know going on, but it seems to me like the least shitty approach if your goal is to make this at least somewhat accessible

This aspect of yc is good - I know plenty of come from nowhere, unprivileged backgrounds who got into yc and were able to start a company

Now, they fact a lot of them get super douchey once they are in is a different story