These days you write a fucking preprocessed CSS file, a few JS helper functions and it's a framework.

What, google and apple "fighting" the US Government they've gladly been cooperating with since forever???

Why doesn't Schneier call them out for what these corporations really are, government snitches? What makes Schneier think any of these companies want to do what's "moral"??

This article is one of the most naive pieces I've ever read. It parts on the principle that these companies want to do what's moral, but the government is keeping them from doing it. That is absurd.

Google, Apple and friends have been willingly cooperating with the government in exchange for perks, for immunity against FTC probes and so on. They're NOT gonna "fight" because they have nothing to fight against.

They're happy where they are. Profits are good. This article is one of the most naive pieces I've ever read.

What do Google, apple, etc want now? For this subject to go away and so that their big mass of users forget about it, that is what they want.

It is really really hard for me to imagine Intel not beeing 100% cooperative with the NSA.

They need to work on real honest not ad-driven search again.

Search quality is dwindling(I don't need 2 billion amazon and ebay listings on search results, Google!).

Months ago when I used duckduckgo I'd bounce right back to Google. Today I can use DDG without regrets.

Don't fall for this bullshit, Google has been in the spying business for ages now. They joined the NSA program in 2009 and have been in trouble constantly in every spy scandal there is some google product involved. Wake up already.

Google was caught pants down spying on everyone, stop trying to white wash it.

I don't know why people keep putting this into question, giving Google the benefit of the doubt, when they were caught pants down, no questions asked.

If the companies mentioned in the slides just complied with the law, why would they be singled out in those slides? Honoring search warrants and FISA requests is an obligation, not an extra.

The reason Google was singled out as a partner since 2009 is because they gave the government full unrestricted access.

After the scandal was revealed, and only after it was revealed in an unprecedented act by Snowden, did Google come out in favor of their customers. This is ridiculous.

Google was caught pants down and there's no amount of PR bullshit they can use to white wash this and pretend the government forced them to do it. They willingly participated in exchange for political status with the government, that is the raw truth.

Schneier is a great cryptologist, I've read his books, I've carried them around, I'm a big fan of his work.

BUT.

He's seriously lagging behind in his coverage of this scandal, it's like he's just reposting what others have already said and often stating the obvious.

So the NSA has the capability to store voice? No, really? Like since 1940????

Sorry, Bruce, but this article is shit.

Unless you turn off some 10 or more options, it literally phones back your entire online activity, in or out of incognito mode, in or out of any google service.

Now I can't even look at Google anymore, they're like a spouse that cheated on you. You knew the spouse may have been watching you, but at least they weren't fucking with someone else while you trusted them.

The USA was founded as the most free, exemplary democracy in history and what we saw in this scandal is precisely the opposite of what this Nation earned so Google could exist. Then Google betrayed us all and was in bed with the government in the most sinister way possible since 2009.

Honestly? I'd rather give someone else a chance. Then if DuckDuckGo spies on us in the future, I'll switch again.

They were doing the spying and actively sending the data out.