At a high level, most uses of AI I've seen seem to be people building other AI tools, orchestrators, managers, agent managers etc. But these are all means to ends. I mean I guess it's nice to play aroud with harnesses and command agents to do this and that, but where are the tangible outputs?

I just see so many people boasting of their token burn and the complexity of their agentic setup, yet they rarely show the actual outputs

Re "the hard way", I disagree. While it may seem like the hard way, in the medium and long term this is turning out to be the easy way. We have basically no technical debt, we can fix issues rapidly and (intangible I know) we can stand behind our codebase with absolute confidence.

Like, did somebody seriously think through the meaning and implication of that disclaimer and still write it?

We're working in a really deep area where having full understanding of our code is more important than speed.

Besides, in this area, clients getting one whiff of AI code would be an immediate deal-killer

I'm already being more careless with spelling and grammar because it gives authenticity.

Maybe people will revert to Jeffrey Epstein style prose to avoid any suspicion of slop..., e.g:

“no , bed, i, m laying on thefloor so it can't move.”

Also contains a number of mentions of cost overruns not being detected until weeks afterwards. Which seems to me, maybe naively, like it should be trivial to detect in real-time...

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And OpenAI deliberately removed the guardrails.

If they were honest about it, instead of being smeared across the internet with shocked pikachu reactions, they should have just corrected their sandbox and re-run the test. There's really nothing to see here...

The whole "oh no what have we done. Regulate us PLEASE because we're one step away from terminator" is so stale. It's been trained on every exploit known and then told to use its training to brute force its way to score highly on a test FFS.

I mean, what an appalling way to live. To take themselves so seriously and simultaneously be terrified of what they're building. If we are really seeing the collapse of the bubble now, I wonder what's going to happen to these clowns when their AI god fails... what will they move on to next?

Or maybe there's been a bit too much hype...

If they weren't doing so, then these Chinese resellers wouldn't be viable. Radical idea, but how about they actually charge a viable price, even on subscription plans?

Surely it should be trivial for them to have their own tools spinning away trying to fix all the github issues in real time...

So when it fails, people will chalk it up to "oh. Must have been silently downgraded because it thought I was doing something tricky enough to count as a distillation attack. My bad. Lemme try again..."

I can only guess that a lot of the engineers who went into software purely for money were all too happy to distance themselves from writing code and really don't want to go back...