i do agree the interface can be a bit odd in places, but it takes about 5 minutes to learn, really. Disabling all the plex crap helps a lot so i see only my own content.

As for the tv apps -- yes exactly you already had an android tv box but if you didnt? Then you have to get one, set that up, now you are 2 steps removed from what you are trying to acheive. And what about if you wanted to share your content with grandma or family elsewhere in the country? it's not easy.

Also you just unlocked horror memories of set top boxes etc. I remember years ago i used to run a decent setup with audio, hdmi matrix and various inputs, like a firetv, or a popcorn hour, as well as PC, consoles etc . ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE getting family to be able to use it. they could never get the input right, or the audio right or something. god i forgot how mauch i hate plugging stuff in to the family tv. Thank goodness for smart apps lol! WAF is through the roof. Never thought Id say that.

Now I have a Wiim Pro with ARC HDMI and a Sony android TV. never need to touch anything. all controlled on the tv remote, audio, source and it all just works.

I see some discussion on the copy paste. Funnily enough i was copy pasting stuff yesterday in Gimp and yeah there is something funky that I couldn't put my finger on. It makes the app feel really janky clicking here and ther doesn't work, renaming the pasted layer. do i click once ? double click? hit enter? I coudln't work it out as the behaviour seemed inconsistent. I also couldn't work out how to get a pasted layer to align to top left. I had to align it manually every time. sigh.

anyway is ther any decent articles that discuss this anywhere that someone could link me?

Billy the 12 year old who wants to 'play with photoshop' now and again (as many of us did when we were younger back in the day) can't afford $16 a month for that.

> you're basically part-time "starting out"/"fresh", you most likely can afford it,

yes - you are agreeing with me.. 'starting out/fresh' refers to making money? i.e. professional use. A professional is merely someone who makes money. Frequency is irrelevant.

group 1: somebody just wants to watch a movie they've downloaded. They either double click the movie file and maybe connect with a hdmi to a tv. Advanced group one users might eve use a usb drive / stick and plug it into a TV for computerless playback. Usually only a single user, or users who don't mind doing it 'manually'

group2: has a 'collection' is concerned with the 'library' of content possibly has a nas or media pc that handles playback. Jelly fin works fine here, and these guys who haven't used plex DO NOT understand why people would use plex given all the objections. (i'm including you in this group, as 'the interface sucked' Possibly a technical user that wants more than just a directory of movie files. I'd say usually a solo user or a shared setup on family tvs within the same network.

group3: These are folk who may be technical, but don't want to waste time pfaffing with linux configs etc . The shit really hits the fan here because this group will also likely want to share their library with family and friends, and perhaps use apps on their TV/devices to access the content, from different places. Plex is AS EASY as netflix to setup in this way. You invite your users from within plex. They create a plex account for free and they download an app on their TV or tablet from the app store, Sign in, and start watching. It (your server) tracks users, progress, between devices and everything just works in a nice way, there is basically zero configuration required.

of course there's overlap and this is broad strokes, but I see these issues pop up on these discussion all the time . The comment above that said 'just use jellyfin' is like saying 'just use linux 15 years ago' is on the money. Jelly fin is cool, but it's needs heavy dose of polish and more TV apps. Half the TV's in my house don't have a jelly fin app but they do have a plex app . I don't even need to check what my freinds and family have, plex app availability is a given.

Sorry what? This is nonsense.

> as long as you have one or two gigs per month which more than covers the subscription already.

ahh there's the rub.

So if you use photoshop professionally/commercially then you can afford to pay for it.

So what about the folk who don't use it professionally and have no access to cracked copies anymore ?

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