At times like these I cant help but think of Principal Skinner. Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong!

With that said, I do think there's an important distinction here, which is that we (hopefully) get to _choose_ if the systems we build will pursue this kind of behavior.

I think most people would agree that a big point of social training (school, parenting, etc) is to inculcate a sense of what's acceptable and not in society. Here it seems like we're letting the agents that we've created create havoc and then we're providing a smoke screen by blaming the victim.

IMO this is a 'for whom does the bell toll' kind of collective moment and we shouldn't be laundering this kind of agentic behavior.

I always get the feeling that these claims are an attempt to "avoid suffering by fiat". If it can't suffer, you aren't causing suffering.

A somewhat more interesting frame (IMO) is to interrogate how much suffering we're willing to tolerate to achieve our objectives. We implicitly make these decisions all the time when it comes to something as simple as what to have for lunch.

And in a (very hypothetical) world where we found ourselves in the position of having an eloquent conversation with a vat of smallpox, I think it's probably still the right thing to pasteurize it.

If a human says "I am in pain", is it just stringing together words or is it feeling pain?

If you take that seriously it's quite a tough question to unwind. See e.g. Dennett's heterophenomenology conversations.

courts haven't always ruled that way but there's definitely precedent!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_v._Bidder%27s_Edge

I read him as saying that part of the miracle to him is that he has experienced something that makes him realize that it's a lot harder than it sounds to be loving and kind with no (or few) conditions, and to open your home and life to a stranger.

For me, a lesson of this piece is actually the juxtaposition of the relative ease of -accepting- help and the strange difficulty of -offering- help. It's worth reflecting on, and imo much more relatable.

I'm reminded of a friend who talks about primary and secondary wants. He wants to eat a burger, but he wants to want to eat a salad. Maybe KK wants to want to help people, and the challenge for him is connecting the dots.

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It's one thing to say that you want to get things done. It's another to say you want to be _seen_ as someone who gets things done.

Again, I don't intend to mind read here, and I think the author actually has some really good data gathering ideas. But the language definitely smacks of political motivation, which some folks (myself included) find off-putting.

Lots of fun stuff to figure out, from wrangling structured data, working around limited context sizes, and figuring out how to even write down sensible metrics to determine how well the models are doing.

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The stack is react / cloud run / job queue / LLMs (several) / vector db.

that'll be my evening reading :)

Because they can see the associated muon, they know when to look for a correlated neutrino signal.

Between that and the extremely hot source, they can get away with a relatively small active detector volume.

Again that's just based on my reading of the abstract, I need to see the full article to validate that guess.

our experience thus far is that GPT4 definitely needs help when it comes to datasheet-like data. it's great at broad "functional" strokes, but details and particularly numerical details are not its forte.

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