What I meant is that they describe loglogn the same way you could describe O(n) or O(n^2) -- it "tends to infinity with n", even though my mental model for loglogn is to treat it as barely more than constant. See: https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/148197/who-said-first...

Since loglog(n) tends to infinity with n, the additional term in the exponent tends to 0, meaning these constructions achieve growth only slightly faster than linear.

Would anyone else describe the previous asymptotic behavior like that? I mean obviously loglogn to O(1) is a quantum leap, but wouldn't you describe loglogn as "grows so slowly it's almost constant", so the constructions achieve growth "almost n^{1+c}"? But I guess that might be overcorrecting too hard.

But I agree with the parent comment in that we shouldn't use the term "AI psychosis" to mean "a value judgment" instead of "a form of psychosis", because "AI psychosis" has already been used for 2.5 years to mean "a form of psychosis".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot_psychosis

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/ai-spi...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/technology/chatgpt-ai-cha...

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paper link: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adt2981

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Body size and metabolic rate are intertwined, a factor that is especially important to understand with regard to animals that live in aquatic environments, where heat loss is related to water temperature. Payne et al. developed a method to estimate routine metabolic rate based on measures from tagged fish, and combined the estimates with published respirometry rates to create a dataset spanning the entire body size range of extant fishes. Using these data, the authors found a scaling imbalance between heat production and loss that affects especially large, mesothermic fishes in warm waters. This imbalance both explains the distribution of these fish in cooler waters and suggests a special sensitivity to warming waters. —Sacha Vignieri

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Body size and temperature set metabolic rates and the pace of life, yet our understanding of the energetics of large fishes is uncertain, especially of warm-bodied mesotherms, which can heavily influence marine food webs. We developed an approach to estimate metabolic heat production in fishes, revealing how routine energy expenditure scales with size and temperature from 1-milligram larvae up to 3-tonne megaplanktivorous sharks. We found that mesotherms use approximately four times more energy than ectotherms use and identified a scaling mismatch in which rates of heat production increase faster than heat loss as body size increases, with larger fish becoming increasingly warm bodied. This scaling imbalance creates an overheating predicament for large mesotherms, helping to explain their cooler biogeographies. Contemporary mesotherms face high fuel demands and overheating risks, which is a concern given their disproportionate demise during prior climate shifts.

Edit: oh wait, this article isn't the source either. It references an article by "The Information", which I assume is https://www.theinformation.com/articles/salesforce-executive... There's also this follow-up: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/story-salesforces-de...

It's paywalled, so I can't verify.

We see potential uses in companionship and affective interaction. The robot’s ability to elicit spontaneous touching and positive emotional responses suggests it could serve in therapeutic settings or as a social presence for people who spend time alone. The quiet operation and gentle movement make it suitable for environments where noise and sudden motions would be disruptive.

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And he's made it clear from that start that he never intended the global leaderboard to be the point, plus AI the last few years messes it all up. All good things come to an end, and I gotta appreciate the good run that we had, and the voluntary work of one person that gifted it to us.