Who is supposed to defend liberty across the globe? Do you think the US has been doing that and should be doing that?

The point of OP was that the facts from the CIA can’t be trusted. That they can lie about the facts.

I am a democrat who does support ICE. If there are any issues, as there are given the numbers, they should be investigated. There have been many instances where an “execution” is claimed but they, the agents, were reasonable to assume imminent harm and self defense.

>Is that right? In which case I would say: of course you need to update the tests.

That is right. I think it is bad for you to need to update a test where the input and output are the same. Your mock is there for you to essentially ignore, but now you need to update the test. You now do not know if you introduced a bug.

You are losing out on encapsulation, the test should not know about the internals, generally speaking.

>The dependencies of a function are also inputs of a kind.

Typically that should not be a concern to the caller of the function.

Your position is reasonable and I do think isolation can be beneficial, but I still wouldn’t use mocking to do it.

>Smaller, more focused, cleaner tests are better in my opinion.

Cleaner is subjective. I can write “small” and “focused” functional tests that are also quick to run.

I am of the opinion that functional tests provide more value. They are testing more of the actual code than an approximation, which in turn gives a better indicator that it works. Functional tests are less likely to change unless the input/output changes.

Now let’s say you mock something in your function. Let’s say you make a change to that but the input and output are the exact same. Now you have to update your test.

You can do all that without mocks as well.

Making the tests run faster at the expense of better tests seems counterproductive.

Now you should think of reasons why you should not isolate.