e.g. one explanation might be that time spent prompting is time spent not improving, or learning, so it would not be surprising then that the productivity gains might be similar in scale to the productivity lost from learning / improvement that never happens.

another explanation might be that prompting just delays work that will have to be done later when fixing errors. When encountering an error that the LLM doesn't fix on the first attempt the human-in-the-loop doesn't understand the problem very well: they will either pull the slot machine for a while until they hit lucky, or grit their teeth and sit down to understand what the code is doing in the excruciating and boring detail required to find and solve bugs, which is exactly the work that they had offloaded onto the LLM earlier.

That might be because of some lag, but another explanation might be that the tools are really effective at increasing someone's perception of their productivity while net productivity gains measured over long time windows are low or zero. Another explanation might be that the incompetent/negligent users are causing enough harm to nearly neutralize the gains brought by proficient / effective users. I don't know what the explanation is, but there is a mystery in the divergence between users' perceptions of their own productivity, and the observed productivity gains in the economy.

Very similar story with security research, LLM's are a super useful tool while hunting vulnerabilities, but it turns out when the entire software industry starts throwing tens of billions of dollars at vuln. research, a lot of stuff gets unearthed, something security people have been insisting on for years and complaining that their work is underfunded and under-resourced.

And you are representing the situation in Evanston disingenuously here's the timeline AFAICT:

- Aug 26, 2025 Evanston issues a termination notice to Flock, effective Sep. 26 2025 after it learns that Federal law enforcement and immigration enforcement are able to access license plate data from the Flock cameras in Evanston, something the city claims Flock lied about. (https://evanstonroundtable.com/2025/08/26/evanston-shuts-dow...)

   - Notably at this point EPD believes the cameras are off: An EPD officer: "The last read on an Evanston Flock camera was logged shortly before 1:00 p.m. on August 26th, which is consistent with the City’s request for de-activation,",

- Sep. 8, 2025 Flock has removed 15 of 18 cameras.

- Sep. 18, 2025 Flock reinstalls the uninstalled cameras. Evanston sends Flock a letter asserting that they are in violation of the contract and Illinois law. (https://evanstonroundtable.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/25...)

   - Flock did not inform Evanston, a technician unintentionally informed the city: "[City spokesperson] Vargas said the city learned that Flock reinstalled new cameras after a Flock technician called the Evanston Police Department to ask questions on where to find a camera’s power source." (this is from the tribune article I linked above)

- Sep. 24, 2025 The city issues a cease-and-desist to flock. (https://evanstonroundtable.com/2025/09/24/flock-safety-reins...)

    - Despite the city's belief that the cameras have been off since the termination letter on Aug. 26th, RoundTable journalists show that the cameras are still on and logging locations.

- Mar 3, 2026 Journalists notice that two of flock's cameras are still up in Evanston and contact Flock asking for comment, Flock does not reply but removes the cameras.

https://www.klcc.org/crime-law-justice/2025-12-09/eugene-pol...

And here is flock getting caught installing cameras in Cambridge after contract termination:

https://www.cambridgema.gov/news/2025/12/statementontheflock...

Here is flock getting caught installing cameras in Evanston after contract termination:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/09/29/after-evanston-fir...

And obviously these are only the cases where they were caught making convenient mistakes, there is very little incentive for the likeliest parties to know (Flock, law enforcement) to bring to light the fact that flock cameras are still on, being serviced, and the data is still accessible despite local ordinance.

https://www.kut.org/crime-justice/2026-02-12/austin-tx-apd-f...

The network effect value far outweighs the lost revenue from a single local contract.

Yeah, but a national license plate surveillance system that lets a single police officer observe all of the movements you and your family members make every day for the past few years is not a single police officer making a plainview observation of you driving down the road.

And it's clearly a power that threatens liberties, you cannot have a free society when a government has that power.

"Palantir, what are the names and home addresses of all of the people that were at the pro-Mamdani rally, show me places that many of them go to in common, I want to find where these criminals are having their secret meetings."

Probably not in voice-to-text form, but this power is already in the hands of some US agencies, in part thanks to the national ALPR system.

That's simply not true: there are numerous instances of municipalities having to fight flock to get cameras removed or shut off, and instances where local governments pass ordinances that local law enforcement refuses to enforce because the cameras, which have been banned, are not off, as you allege is what happens, and law enforcement continues to use the data the cameras provide despite the contract being terminated.

Just google e.g. "flock trash bag" to see how cities are having to deal with Flock.

There are links elsewhere in this thread to a few of the many instances where this happens but I'll link to something that hasn't been mentioned yet, where flock cameras are turned back on and used by law enforcement in Springfield after contracts are cancelled, and cameras are left up that flock pinky swears are off that turn out to be on and accessible by law enforcement:

https://www.kezi.com/news/local/stolen-car-found-in-springfi...

And again, that is just talking about the instances where the municipality actually wants the flock cameras turned off or removed, there are many instances, like TFA, where the local government wants them on or doesn't care, and they remain on and used by other agencies, despite the termination of the contract with one of the client agencies.