<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: mollybee</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=mollybee</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 16:49:26 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=mollybee" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by mollybee in "Show HN: Shimmer – ADHD coaching for adults, now on web"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>The ADHD community, like many underserved populations, tends to be overrepresented in the prison population due to lack of accommodations and resources, along with stigma. There's a great deal of peer-reviewed research on the subject of ADHD and drug addiction. The overall gist is that people with ADHD are at higher risk for substance use disorders than their neurotypical counterparts due to several possible factors, including chronically low levels of dopamine and contextual factors like lack of resources and stigma.<p>Keep in mind that those numbers may be skewed based on how ADHD was diagnosed in the past. Only in the last few years have we started to see more traditionally "successful" people being diagnosed with ADHD, which is revealing that the percentage of the general population with ADHD is likely much higher than previously thought. ADHD was considered a "disease" that caused people to make trouble. That created a vicious cycle of stigma and punishment for those who had been diagnosed or expressed obvious symptoms. Meanwhile, lots of people with more subtle ADHD symptoms, stronger support systems, and greater privilege were never diagnosed at all. I'd take that 27% statistic with a big grain of salt, especially if it's coming from nootropics websites.</p>
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<p>Therapy to deal with childhood trauma can absolutely benefit people with ADHD. Having ADHD doesn't magically make you immune to PTSD or other impacts of childhood trauma. It just means you also have ADHD. I know this because I have both ADHD and C-PTSD, and the ADHD was very, very present by the time the trauma started. Trauma symptoms exacerbate ADHD symptoms, and often vice versa. Both need to be treated. If kids' ADHD symptoms improve with trauma treatment, that doesn't necessarily mean they never had ADHD. It just means their overlapping symptoms might be less difficult to handle or, just as likely, mask. Ignoring the reality of overlap between trauma and ADHD serves only to erase people who have both. It benefits no one.</p>
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<p>"Correlation" is the key word here. I think it's really important to keep in mind that a lot of people with ADHD have childhood trauma because of how adults responded to their ADHD symptoms. In my case, I have plenty of trauma, almost all of which was the direct results of adults shaming and criticizing me for traits that turned out to be due to ADHD. If your ADHD makes it impossible for you to focus in school, and the adults in your life shame and yell at you every day because you can't focus in school, you're going to have both trauma and ADHD. There's also a solid chance you'll end up with some anxiety and depression. All we know is that a) there's a correlation, b) lots of people with ADHD don't have severe childhood trauma, and c) it's a huge stretch to assume that every person with ADHD is repressing severely traumatic childhood events and never finding out about it. I think it's potentially plausible that generational trauma might have an epigenetic impact, but we'd need a lot more data to know that.</p>
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<p>I'm curious, why are you so concerned about how ADHD affects people who don't have ADHD? What makes you think we "shouldn't distract others?" Have you considered that the problem might be failure to accommodate ADHD brains rather than people with ADHD not complying with arbitrary neurotypical standards?</p>
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<p>The sentence could definitely be worded better. When I first read it, I had a similar thought, but upon further reading, I realized I was making a very large and unfair assumption. It's not exactly a secret that people who are already doing pretty well are the ones who have the energy and capacity to make further progress. Struggling with mental health issues, especially executive dysfunction, makes it harder to to do the work required to improve one's mental health. That reality is endlessly frustrating but undeniable. Someone who's not ready to move forward may not have the capacity to benefit from the structure and content of coaching. Coaching is all about taking active steps toward goals between sessions. It takes a lot of energy and effort. When I was just barely treading water, I didn't have the energy for that kind of work. I had to get to that point through therapy, support from friends, and a LOT of rest. Sure, I could have talked to my coach once a week, but I wouldn't have had the capacity to benefit as much as I do now. That doesn't mean it would have been "my fault" if I didn't benefit from coaching; it means I wouldn't have been a good fit, and Shimmer probably wouldn't have taken my money.</p>
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<p>If you're curious, might I suggest directing these questions toward the email address referenced multiple times in the link you posted? In case you've forgotten, it's privacy@shimmer.care. I'm sure they'll be able to answer your questions better than the comments section.<p>Keep in mind that not everyone considers their ADHD their "deepest darkest secret." Some of us are open and unashamed of being neurodivergent. Obviously, unscrupulous employers are a thing, but many of us would be "found out" from our social media presence long before employers managed to find out we're receiving coaching services from Shimmer. As for having your calls leaked on tiktok due to lack of security, I regret to inform you that there are lots of ways to record "secure" calls (like taking a video of the screen). Recording someone without their consent in some states, so it's always <i>possible</i> that you could be putting yourself at risk when you divulge anything sensitive to anyone via video or phone. Think about it, though. What would happen to Shimmer if they leaked a user's private call on tiktok? Their business would lose legitimacy and crumble. If you're truly concerned that Shimmer would risk destroying their entire business by leaking your "shortcomings" on tiktok, in-person coaching may be a better fit for you.</p>
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<p>You're making a lot of assumptions here. Let's tackle them one by one:<p>1. "I see them all in the same light unfortunately of profiteering in various ways around the incompetent medical system the US has."<p>You're right, it is unfortunate that you see them all as profiteering off of the failures of the American medical system. As you've noted, the issue here is your choice not to look for nuance or independently evaluate each service.<p>2. "Is this a better price than a licensed therapist?"<p>Shimmer has been very clear every step of the way that coaching is not the same thing as — or a substitute for — therapy. For some people, therapy isn't necessary. For others, like me, therapy isn't enough. Coaching fills in the gaps and covers areas that aren't necessarily a great use of time in therapy. In my case, I use therapy to dig into major mental health issues (MDD and PTSD, primarily). I use coaching to help me figure out how to overcome executive functioning barriers and prioritize day-to-day tasks. Both are incredibly helpful in different ways.<p>3. "It just feels ethically wrong to promote your services to people who are 'undiagnosed' or 'think they have' ADHD."<p>Have you ever tried to get an ADHD diagnosis in the US? Until recently, testing was virtually impossible for many Americans to access because of scarcity and cost. I was initially quoted $1,700 for an ADHD evaluation from an out-of-network provider, and that was after calling around to numerous places that took insurance, all of which were booked up indefinitely and required referrals (which not everyone's PCP will provide for ADHD testing). I got lucky and found a $500 option, which was then treated as "unofficial" by some prescribers. Finally, I got an "official" diagnosis from an online testing service (unrelated to Shimmer) for $150. I'm incredibly fortunate to have had access to the $650 it cost me to get a diagnosis, along with medical and therapy providers who supported me along the way. Others are less privileged. Do those people not deserve help simply because they can't access a formal diagnosis?<p>4. "This is exactly what social media is doing today in the sense of trying to convince you you have something because you happen to engage in said content."<p>Shimmer isn't in the business of telling people they have ADHD or handing out stimulants to any random undiagnosed person who asks. If you take a few moments to look up Shimmer's website and social media, you'll see that they're clearly not aiming to convince people they have ADHD. Each potential client meets with one of the founders (or, I assume, another qualified team member) to discuss their specific situation and needs. If they're a good fit for one of those coaches, they're allowed to sign up and begin coaching. On the off chance that someone did fall through the cracks and begin coaching despite not having ADHD, <i>and</i> their coach didn't notice it right away, then one of two things might happen. Either they'd leave because ADHD coaching isn't suitable for them, or they'd continue because a lot of what happens in ADHD coaching is helpful for all kinds of people with executive dysfunction and trouble focusing.<p>5. "I mean just look at the eligibility"<p>"Eligibility" requirements are a bare minimum. One can easily infer from the content Shimmer creates that its services aren't intended (or useful) for all adults with smartphones and internet access.<p>6. Your link to an article titled "Teens Turn to TikTok in Search of a Mental Health Diagnosis"<p>Take another look at the eligibility requirements you posted. Shimmer is for adults only. Yes, technically people ages 18 and 19 have ages in the "teens," but they are legally and developmentally considered adults capable of making informed, reasoned decisions about their health. An adult seeking out ADHD one-on-one ADHD coaching from a mental health professional is not the same thing as a teenager scrolling tiktok and diagnosing themselves based on their uninformed interpretation of a video.</p>
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<p>You're absolutely right about the onboarding process. It's very clear that Shimmer does not provide medical care. I think some people just don't realize that doctors exist outside of medical practices. "MD" is a title earned by completing a medical degree, not a job title. There's no reason to assume someone with an MD is acting in the capacity of medication-dispensing doctor at all times. Medical expertise is clearly relevant for the position of "clinical advisor" for an ADHD-related service. Many, if not most, Shimmer users use coaching as an add-on to first line medical treatments and/or therapy. It makes perfect sense to have someone on board who's well-versed in the medical side of ADHD treatment. Operating an ADHD coaching program <i>without</i> someone knowledgeable in that area would be downright dangerous. I'm glad Shimmer has a MD on their team to cover all the bases.</p>
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<p>I disagree. This isn't about technicalities. I think it's about you assuming that others draw a "false connection" just because you saw one. Most people don't see HSA/FSA and automatically assume that a service is medical care. HSA/FSA funds are for healthcare-RELATED expenses and cover lots of things that aren't medical co-pays or medication: sunscreen, condoms, breast milk pumps, glasses or contacts, health-related home improvements (e.g., wheelchair ramps, hand rails), transportation for medical care, weight loss programs, menstrual care products, band-aids etc. All of those things are healthcare-related, but they're clearly not medical care.<p>There's nothing wrong with stating the objective reality that the cost of Shimmer is HSA/FSA-eligible. HSA/FSA-eligibility is directly relevant to one of Shimmer's key goals, making ADHD coaching accessible to people who can't afford traditional coaching. Using HSA/FSA funds brings down the overall cost significantly, so it's going to be a factor when budgeting. It isn't even close the same thing as snake oil treatments claiming to be "FDA cleared." Consumers may not realize that "FDA cleared" is an absolutely meaningless phrase, but I think we can agree that most adults know the difference between a condom and a licensed medical professional dispensing FDA-approved medication.<p>"HSA/FSA-eligible" is a legitimate, accurate phrase to describe the services Shimmer provides. Plus, anyone who has a HSA/FSA has most likely received education or literature about it through the company providing it for them (typically their employer). They're not reading this post thinking, "Since I can pay for this with the account that I use to buy sunscreen and band-aids, I will surely see a physician and get drugs." Personally, I thought, "Gee, I wish I had a HSA/FSA so I could use it to pay for this health-related service." All brains are different, especially ADHD brains. It's unhelpful to assume they'll all draw the same false conclusion as you did.</p>
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