Side note: McMaster has, hands down, the best/most useable site I've ever used. The flow always gets me quickly to exactly what I want, even if I don't know what that is going in.

I periodically use this feature, to see if it has improved any since it's initial disappointing release. As of a few weeks ago, it has not.

A true data download from Facebook would consist of: a machine-readable form of every action I've taken on Facebook (likes, friend requests sent/received, photos I added tags to, photos uploaded, status updates, messages sent/received, comments made, etc.) along with timestamps and at least URIs pointing to the objects referenced (photos, people, etc.) if not a copy of my view of those objects.

(I understand why Facebook might claim they shouldnt give me, for example, dates that other people de-friend me, since that isn't accessible info. However, I do think that copies of statuses I commented on and can still see isn't unreasonable)

What we have now is: A static HTML dump of your profile page, photo page, and messages that is massively incomplete. Since the switch to timeline, fewer actions I have taken in the past seem to qualify for inclusion on my page ("moxiemk1 commented on friend's photo" used to feature more often in my profile than it does now). Since the revamped messages/chat integration, the messages dump (which always eventually cut off at some point in the past) is even smaller, and harder to read.

I would indeed like to have copies of the data I've created, and would like to emphasize that Facebook's "effort" to do so is complete BS.

It seems to me that we should not feel any compulsion to cater to those who think that there is inherent moral difference in non-heterosexual behavior.

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The way to fight terrorism is to provide an environment where people not want to be terrorists. Terrorism requires no state sponsored infrastructure. Bombing places to hell doesn't stop the spread of hopelessness, of desperation, of taking comfort in extremism.

Note: Using the "anti-establishment guerrilla fighters" definition of terrorism, not "causing terror". That's a whole other bag of bagels.

Women shouldn't have be the only ones calling out their peers for making othering comments - everyone can do that.

The facts that are presented are pretty minimal - while I may agree with some of the conclusions that seem to be pushed by it, it doesn't feel like a general-use tool in order to provide better information. It feels like a presentation with specific goals.

EDIT: I think a better way of phrasing what bothers me about this is: It focuses on making the presentation of the data compelling. That's a good thing - if the presentation is compelling, people are likely to engage and learn. However, here that seems to have been accomplished in an "editorial" way - by hand-selecting things. Compelling presentation of data will be meaningful and honest when it can happen with minimal editorial influence. This is (or at least appears to be) completely hand-selected.

It sounds to me to be clearly a tool for fans, not "Entepreneurs". I know tons of people who would love to analyze sports data for enjoyment, not profit. Since the data is so hard to get access to anyway, this API is a way to let those who are interested play around with things without being a potential competitor. ESPN wins, fans win. "Sort of like Zynga for sports-focused Foursquare groups" gets no dice, apparently.

N-variable calculus isn't something that you can draw a picture of. Lots of (very practical) Linear Algebra is derived from the pure "Linear Transformation" interpretation rather than the "Matrix" one. Stochastic...anything (seems to be all the rage these days) is not made with helpful pictures.

If we train people to do math in a non-abstract way, they won't be as easily able to grapple with the real problems, which are only approachable in the abstract.

That's pretty darn good money, but not a huge amount more room for user-growth. They'll grow by having new businesses/making current ones more profitable. New business would have to be monetizable (eventually, at least), current businesses would either have to convert better or become less costly to run.

Facebook is full of some smart cookies - it'll be interesting to see how they accomplish those paths.

This is the first time I have ever felt left out by not using Android. I think I'm going to more seriously consider needing Android versions of projects. The feeling sucks.

Tesla might still be in a bit of a rocky position, but if this succeeds...watch out.

This is pretty interesting. I'm interested to see how maintainable "pretty" HTML ends up being.

There are few products that, as a student, more directly inhibit education than Blackboard. Ripe for disruption? More like rotting on the ground.

If you don't think the stock UI works well for your application, then you either have special needs, or are wrong. Special needs can be implemented however you like, since they're by definition not handled with standard widgets. Re-implementations of standard widgets, however, immediately stand out to me, and make using an application similar to listening to out-of-tune musicians.

In what is a largely evidence based/logical culture, it's frustrating how both sides are often almost completely filled with illogical shouting. Hopefully HN can become a place with a lot more productive discussion about it than it previously has.

In a thread not long ago, I made a comment calling out an article (of an article about Steve Jobs, not gender) for expressing a (to me) particularly exasperating form of the "pedestal" side of female-discouragement. (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3229502) If I recall correctly, the score of my comment fluctuated a bit before hitting 10, then going back down to 2. I didn't find any of the responses particularly thoughtful, but clearly it is a contentious issue.

A number of recent call-outs by women about conferences seem to indicate that accusations of sexism without 100% proof of sexist don't fly in our community, much as anything without 100% proof tends to fall flat. However, one of the most frustrating parts of sexism (and related problems) is that they are subtle and often subconscious. This discourages me.

>> And when you check back on Friday, I'll provide you with some concrete applications on how being cognizant of male privilege will improve your relations with women.

I'm excited about the possibilities of the "practical applications" - there is an awful lot of "identifying the problem" and "raising awareness" (as Helianthus refers to in another comment on this thread), however, not a lot of solutions. Obviously they're not simple, and they're not easy, and they're imperfect, but I'd like to see some other people's ideas about them.

This is perhaps irrelevant to the topic, but it's really frustrating that there's basically no way for me to do anything about this. I've waded through their highly unhelpful help pages to submit bug reports for all the things I've found not to work, but this has been the case for months.

I assume that I managed to be a part of an A/B test that causes some really inoperable things to happen? Regardless, it sort of reinforces my negative opinions of Facebook engineering when something can consistently break for me to the point that it renders no page.