And books aren't? What's the argument here? If it's that books serve a special purpose because they convey ideas and therefore it's a moral good to disseminate those ideas, you have to extend that to media beyond just the printed word. Music has that same potential (an even greater one, I would argue). It feels weird to pick and choose media like that.

The "clean room" aspect for that came in the way that the people writing the new implementation had no knowledge of the original source material, they were just given a specification to implement (see also Oracle v. Google).

If you're feeding an LLM GPL'd code and it "creates" something "new" from it, that's not "clean room", right?

At the end of the day the supposed reimplementation that the LLM generates isn't copyrightable either so maybe this is all moot.

taking real action is your choice, but stop pretending this kind of thing matters one iota

edit: to be clear, i'm not advocating for nihilism, but tricking yourself into thinking you made a difference to make yourself feel better isn't the play either

Yes, they were. What kind of argument is this? If you submit a PR to the kernel you are explicitly engaging with the maintainer(s) of that part of the kernel. That's usually not more than half a dozen people. Seems pretty specific to me.

This is such an incredibly loser attitude and is why we can't have nice things.

This happened, it was called the Chevy Volt. Nobody bought it.

I really don't want to believe that people leading these huge corporations are dumb enough to actually think this, but at the same time I know better.

Yeah, I workshopped it with "Irish need not apply" but it just didn't hit the same.

Anyways, a "no whites" sign is definitely "actual segregation" and I'm not going to debate it or any apologia (which is what your comment is).

This was eighteen years ago, and I hope nothing has changed in Germany.

Plastic is great for all the reasons you describe, but it's really hell on the environment. The thing that offsets that side effect is its cheapness, and that's majorly a function of capitalism/private land ownership/the general way the world is organized right now.