that really is not accurate. macbooks are notoriously terrible with bluetooth. with my macbook pro, it is impossible to play music on a bluetooth speaker, as it starts stuttering within seconds of use. this is a common problem over many years, and there's a litany of solutions on the forums, most of which don't work. another common problem is iTunes automatically opening and even playing when bluetooth headphones connect. in many cases, there's no way to prevent it. in my case, the only thing that stopped it was renaming iTunes, which required a lot of ceremony to even do. it seems in zoom meetings, it's always the people with airpods that are having audio trouble. i thought it was well known that apple has terrible bluetooth, at least on their macbooks.

i hate trump with every bone in my body, view him as a traitor of the U.S., and hide all political videos and ads on youtube, and yet even i am seeing these ads. that tells me basically everyone is likely being force fed these ads. it’s scary.

would the common cold be a good example? the common cold is caused by a few different coronaviruses, and it's not uncommon for people to get a cold at least once a year or even multiple times a year.

the answer is that america gave up from the beginning. that much is clear from the graphs. other countries, like south korea, didn't just flatten the curve, they eliminated it. a total of 100,000+ deaths is a mass die off.

in the united states, out of every 100,000 people, 35 have died. and it's likely more because the united states has manipulated death numbers by underreporting them.

in south korea, out of every 100,000, only 0.5 people have died. by those numbers alone, the u.s.' handling of the virus is 70 times worse. i'm sick and tired of people like you spreading misinformation and shrugging this thing off like it hasn't been a big deal. it hasn't been that big of a deal in countries that have handled it. that does not include the united states.

this is what is unbelievably frustrating. most people in the u.s. basically hold the opinion that everything wasn't so bad, and that things came out okay. meanwhile, most of the numbers point to the u.s. being one of the worst managed countries with respect to the virus. it's really sickening there is this dissonance with people.

i don't feel safe in the u.s. and will be staying away from people as long as possible. it just feels sickening though, because that length will be indefinite in the u.s. until a vaccine arrives.

i think you've lost sight of what flattening the curve was about. flattening the curve, from the beginning, was giving up. it was about accepting that we weren't and still aren't prepared for the virus, and that tons of people would get sick and die. at the moment, the deaths is a rather sickening 100,000+. the "flattening the curve" movement was an acceptance of this and was just meant to spread out the sick and deaths over time. meanwhile, other countries successfully managed the virus where they didn't even have to flatten the curve. they squashed it.

because then, in the end, the fact that the u.s. flattened the curve could be seen as a successful handling of the virus, when it was anything but.

it is still a legitimate threat in the u.s., while other countries came out of lockdown much, much sooner with much less cases and deaths.

citation needed.

100,000+ people have died because our country is fragile. unemployment is somewhere between 15-25%. a virus is about the dumbest enemy we could ever hope to face, and we've failed.

the u.s. is in massive debt, the highest in the world. the u.s. has no socioeconomic safety net, and i question your claim that the u.s. could easily provide one if it wanted. the existing "safety nets", such as social security and taxes, are so abused and misused that they serve as explicit counter examples to your claim. roads and infrastructure in the u.s. are falling apart.

in no household would it be advisable to have massive debt upon debt while the house is falling apart and you're living paycheck to paycheck. and yet, that is exactly what the u.s. is doing.

in many respects, the response to the virus has been both the u.s. didn't want to react to it and that the u.s. couldn't react to it. the u.s. does not have the organizational capacity to handle it.

now, couple that with systemic issues of rascim throughout all of american society, of which the police are part of, you have a terrible mix of rascism, power, lack of worry of consequences, and a general bad attitude of their role in society in "the police". that leaves the general public at risk and people of color at a substantially greater risk.

the point is that this isn't just a one off case. it happens time and time again. i have seen video after video of it, and that's just the ones captured on film! (still don't face any consequences.) i have seen a video of a black emt who had a patient inside pulled over and choked by a police officer because the police officer felt he hadn't yielded properly to his lights even though the call he was on was obviously less important than choking an emt with a patient. there's just countless other videos and documented cases.

so please, take your false rhetoric elsewhere. these are actual problems. if you think it's just a couple bad eggs, then think about what happens when there's bad eggs spread throughout the country. that's what systemic issues are.

riots and particularly looting are not great. but consider what they generally represent. they represent pent up anger of those at the bottom who feel they don't have any other recourse. some do indeed want to incite violence, but that doesn't invalidate the huge line of events that got us here. i would also ask that you view the police as an active participant in the rioting. i have seen video of police actively destroying property without a protester in site. the media is also a participant because we cannot trust what they report as truth.

but it's because they are the status quo, and they define what's looting or not. i'm not in favor of stealing and violence, particularly because the ones getting stolen from are at the bottom as well, but it sure seems those at the top sure live in a different society and under different rules that conveniently favor their form of "looting".

> They have nothing under control

i think you have a vastly different definition of "under control" than i do.

> Their population is still vulnerable and has no antibodies.

again, do you have scientific evidence that backs such a claim up? i'm not claiming it doesn't exist, but it'd be nice if people making implications based upon such claims provide evidence for them.

> The U.S. did not have a monolithic response. Many states never shut down, and never experienced overrun hospitals. Many states had light restrictions and never experienced overrun hospitals. Some states sent sick people to nursing homes and then had overrun hospitals

what is your point, exactly?

i didn't. i said imagine the situation. i'm saying that people would pay attention and treat it seriously.

> Stop pretending that governments can regulate viruses out of existence

isn't that exactly what south korea did?

the point is that there is no excusing the u.s. response to the virus.

> By the way, SK just kicked the can down the road, they are continuing to get spikes because they have no herd immunity

point me to scientific evidence of herd immunity. or any evidence they've kicked the can down the road. look at their graphs and compare them to the u.s. how in the world is their response kicking the can down the road but the u.s.' isn't? that quite literally makes no sense.