--Lee Atwater, 54th Chairman of the Republican National Committee (Source: https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-inf...)

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

-- John Ehrlichman, Nixon domestic policy chief (Source: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richa...)

What if the policies can be shown that a distinct criminalization was made to expressly target a specific demographic? Or what if we can show that health and infant mortality trends mirrors that of the 18060's map of slave county census? We have more than a smoking gun - we have the blood spatter and the bullet, and the gun in the person's hands still smoking. 150 years later, and it's still going strong.

BTW, how's that water upgrade going on in Flint, MI? I'll give you a hint: they're a bunch of black people who live there. It's already out of the news.

That's the problem with "Downvotes" in the way they're done here. Legitimate discourse, albeit unpopular will attract downvotes. And so will unrelated offtopic garbage (Spam, 1 word replies, crazy rantings ala TempleOS).

The end result to both "unpopular" material and "spam" is the same - hidden. Simply put, -1s = losing right to talk and be seen. So yeah, I am pretty disappointed in the community, and I have a justifiable right to be.

Or one can look at plenty of longform articles about this very topic. Or countless books in this realm. Or if one doesn't believe the evidence, look no further than that 1 dot per person map, and finding prisons. They stick out.

But yeah, "climate change" rage inducing indeed. I mean, we have people denying simple (easily verifiable) claims with feelings and "simplistic" retorts.

It's not hard to look up that google maps census dot map. And then go find prisons in Google Maps and find it on the census map. Might be pretty surprising what you see... then again, might not.

Hint: https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/ Turn overlays. Go to Indianapolis, then look to the West side towards Avon and Danville. There's a dense green block (green dots = Black people) due south of Avon. Now, go look in Google Maps as to what's there.

Wash, rinse and repeat all across the US. You want evidence? There's pretty telling evidence right there.

Hell, I would go over the comment limit on even an abstract on this topic. We're talking 300+ years of history just in the US and colonies.

No, the real reason here why I'm being downvoted is because of a popularity contest. It certainly doesn't have to do with content, at least here. But some people are considered "unpopular". So we see rapid point swings and -1's. To me, its just some of the backward-ness how this community works. Every community has something like this. Grain/block of salt, and all.

"We never quit doing slavery."

It is true the Constitution was amended after the Civil war to include banning of slavery in most circumstances. However, slavery is explicitly still allowed as a "punishment for a crime". Instead of "Black = Slave", it's "Black = criminal , criminal = slave". After all, it only takes only 6-12 angry white men to find you guilty.

I would think one of the major points BLM should be making, is removal of slavery as a punishment. It has too many very degenerate ways it can fail - and in some ways I think were very intended. But I doubt in this political climate of this happening.

EDIT: Boy, I said it was an unpopular view. Wasn't expecting this much hatred and contention, along with this much -1's. I mean, it's not like the 13th amendment explicitly says.

Although if they offer other tests, it could be useful.

It isn't a thin blue line. It's a big fat highlighter blue bar. The people, vs the Judicial System. And they're the ones that make and enforce the rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGwZcR0q6VE

Uber is an old scan. - By Richard D Wolff

We legislated and regulated the old Taxi Cab industry when there was no insurance, bad employees, criminal activities, badly maintained vehicles. And someone can move in and laugh at the laws, and offer it for cheaper (Uber). Its only time until they die, or are regulated themselves.

Possibly, you can run it on paid machines - but why would you? They charge you more for a machine/hour than you can make cryptocurrency/hr.

The problem is that the end weight distribution is different than the GB's or TB's of training data. How do we know the training was fair and impartial? How did the trainers even know if it was? What biases crept in on this stage?

Worse yet, what if the bias of the black box does denigrate black people... Say, we take in all pictures of convicted criminals- it's disproportionaly black. I would argue part of that is because of inherent policing biases, but that's embedded in "guilty" verdict. Who's at fault for this "bias"? Is there a fault? How do we detect, other than exhaustively?

I'm eagerly awaiting for methods to "open up" ML black boxes and see what makes them tick. See their decision trees, their neural weights. I want to poke and prod to see what's behind those series of numbers like [.888271829 1.10999292992 37.999999921 1000.32 .73] . Right now, it's shove data in exhaustively and hope for the best. I don't particularly care for that way of analysis.

What I see time and again our little towns that are too small to support even a Walmart or a grocery have one or two Dollar Generals. I'm not an economist and not sure what to make of that other than that a Dollar General seem to be pretty cheap to set up pretty cheap to stock and I guess and implicit acknowledgement that these markets are failures for anything other than dinky stores.

(edit: android voice to text mistakes)

These little towns all had something in common. They had no noticeable industry, very limited business opportunities, and dilapidated and or dying community.

My and assessment, just driving through, is that these towns were all dead ends. I really hate saying that about people because it shouldn't be true. But for all intents and purposes they looked like they were in the last stage of existence.

Because if I would have known the price, I would have chosen not to "consume" the services. I would love to see a lawsuit based on this very area, with complete lack of informed consent with regards to cost and health benefit.

Because the way it's currently handled is like if I went into a Walmart, loaded up with lots of stuff, and walked out the door. Then 3 months later, I get letters saying I owe X*$1,000 on threat of all sorts of things (garnishment, lawsuit, etc).

The claim he makes in the fiction novel, is that a neutron star-neutron star collision event would be enough energy to sterilize 100 light year radius around the event. The one in the novel happens closer than 100ly.

http://www.gregegan.net/DIASPORA/DIASPORA.html

I can see a few interesting govt things coming out of "Autos":

1. Revenue from bad laws drops to 0. These vehicles follow the letter of the law. And they have the logs to prove any sort of claim against the former.

2. A false claim is filed (BLM makes about a point about this..) and says driver did X. Is this the person's responsibility, or the company who wrote the AI?

There's only a few courses of actions. One is to sit quietly and let everyone eventually do the solution. And that doesn't work. No fire under peoples' asses, and the work is delayed.

The other, is to release it promptly. Then, at least we can decide to triage by turning down X service (even if wifi), requiring another factor like tunnel-login or what have you.

But truthfully, defect in a Prisoners Game played out here was the best choice. The rest of the community is "agree".

Admittedly, attacking others in a system that features money as a signifier as status/power isn't usually wise. But given these people are trying to use blacklists as a form of power, this can be used against them. At least if the threat of monetarily loss isn't realized, the fact that you're willing to drag them into court will... expedite any issues you have with being on that list.

What we saw in 2000 and 2006 was a revival in the tech industry. It was big if you were in those areas, but minuscule outside. And the downturn in 2001 and 2008 was bad for all.

The cycle of boom/bust is only going to get quicker as capitalism goes on. Marx saw that in when, the 1850's? Not that Marxist Communism is good but his major contribution is that of critic. According to the boom/bust cycles, we should be starting one shortly, if not already in one.

I've always wondered about this line of reasoning. Drug is made that could save a life, but is put behind an access and paywall that would prevent person from living. So one steals this drug or makes it in violation of patent rights. Now, logically theft is illegal and stealing it is theft.

However we also have another area of law called "Justification" - it "because committing the crime advanced some social interest or vindicated a right of such importance that it outweighs the wrongfulness of the crime." (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justification_(jurisprudence) ) . This topic came up with the recent ex-marine who "stole" a truck to drive the shooting victims to the hospital, at the Vegas Massacre. On the face, he stole a vehicle. However it was to save lives, which is justification.

So yes, it is theft or violation of patent. However this is in the face of living or dying. Whomever would state this defense would have to admit complete guilt to the court, and rely on this as the defense.

But if this won, it would say that everyone has the right to life-saving drugs, but those that can afford it have to pay.

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