Think about it - how often did you post the Gmail authentication URL or another API token in the Telegram chat? Yes - you should feel at least a little uneasy now.

WhatsApp works but is not so tightly integrated.

And regarding Signal, Meredith Whittaker rightfully pointed out at a conference last week that giving web access to your agent opens up access to all private chats. Probably something you wouldn't want either.

So what's the way forward here? To me it feels like a fork of Signal that would be used for anything agentic in order to separate it from the human interactions would make sense. Or at least compartmentalization so that an agent never gets access to the Crown Jewels without approval.

Any other ideas?

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And you can think of extending this approach to domains like sales and marketing.

This is probably the most convincing use case for OpenClaw and Hermes.

But: as you are opening your heart and brain to LLMs it raises the question if local inference might be the best approach.

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Good on them that they want to provide a way to bring back customers on board that were burned / surprised by their move.

BUT: The industry is missing a significant long term revenue opportunity here. There obviously is latent demand and Claws have a great product market fit. Why on earth would you deactivate customers that show high usage? Inform them that you have another product (API keys) for them and maybe threaten with throttling. But don't throw them overboard! Find a solution that makes commercial sense for both sides (security from API bill shock for the customer / predictable token usage for the provider).

What we're seeing right now is the complete opposite. Ban customers that might even rely on their account. Feels like the accountants have won this round - but did not expect the PR backlash and possible Streisand effect...

Meanwhile the rising popularity of Claws creates a yet untapped new market segment where users spend significant tokens.

A „soft“ migration of users by explaining to them how the API works, how to pay and how to change from OAuth would be way smarter.

The way this plays out right now is that current Claws users are massively penalized by being suspended indefinitely and new users will think twice. And we can expect a solid PR disaster / Streisand effect for the „poor“ model providers like OpenAI or Anthropic.

Commercially choosing the soft route by warning and throttling will be way smarter and possibly generate more long term revenue

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I was inspired by a version I saw at 38C3 and built my own interpretation for 39C3. Lots of people enjoyed playing it and even Elliot Williams featured it in his 39C3 Hackaday Podcast. And I can attest: it's truly fun because it's sooo simple at first sight - but wait until the speed increases... Not a bad work to fun created ratio for such a little project.

I used the opportunity to play around with Claude Code on my preexisting codebase to publish a nice-ish repo on GitHub. It worked great without any hitch or compile errors - impressive. What a nice way to test some capabilities.

Have fun with it an build your own version. And there are soooo many ideas that could be implemented. I am waiting for your feedback!

Will we end up with a league of networked 1D-Pong games? ;-)

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While researching the outage (which seemingly was caused by AI scrapers hitting the site hard) I learned that interesting discussions about the future direction of the project are happening on the mailing list

https://sourceforge.net/p/sigrok/mailman/message/59249346/

Issues seem to start around 15:00 GMT

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I was wondering how big the price differences would be so I set up a quick form to collect some data points from several countries and for several products.

It would be cool if you could provide some data - I would then share it back as a reply to this thread within 1-2 days after closing the survey. The latest data entry will be possible on Sunday.

https://forms.cloud.microsoft/e/DjDgH62s21

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