Where this becomes even more of an issue is imagine somebody spends substantial time with these tools to create something - editing the output of vid models for example. Some would say that's not art but at the end of the day it is just using a tool.

There are a lot of mediocre programmers aren't there, I wouldn't be surprised if on average Claude is doing better than what exists. It's not a "lie", anyways, just a point of view.

I don't thin racism was the dominant factor for people moving out of the cities. Today the suburb I'm in is packed with immigrants.

Regardless, I don't think you're being very charitable.

Frankly I don't think you've understood what I was saying but it doesn't matter. You keep saying I'm misunderstanding you but your bias is very obvious and I don't think you've answered why people are praising these models.

> How could you possibly be confident of that?

I just don't see any indication that we're anywhere close to that. It would take a rather big shift in governance.

Do yo believe there are positive reasons people are adopting these models? Because there is nothing in your responses that suggest you do. I, as somebody who rarely uses these models but understands why people might, don't see any attempt at being unbiased.

There isn't any evidence. It's pretty much all anecdotal. I can only speak from my experience.

> People only say this about things that they want. Ignoring the consequences of one's actions is not a neutral position. Societies are perfectly capable of banning things (yeah, you can probably sneak a local model through a hypothetical law, but it would end the industrial scale problems).

We're not going to ban these models, though. Which means we have to figure out how best to live with them.

I can't speak to you other issues but these are here to stay and I think the only realistic way forward is to learn how to use them.

> people are simultaneously much more easily impressed and often lack the skill to properly evaluate the output they're getting

Yes, this is the exact sentiment expressed. That the praise you see is because of these people with low-horsepower who aren't capable of evaluating their own experiences.