I've used turbo/stimulus/hotwire. It's best suited for STATELESS interactions withe the browser/web page. The problem is not all desired user experiences and use cases are stateless. And the ecosystem for hotwire is a minuscule fraction of all the other popular js frameworks.

If you're searching for inventory available its perfect. However if you want to update one thing based on the most recently touched input it becomes more complicated and in all honesty more trouble that it's worth.

Honestly if you're a solo Rails dev, use whatever you want. However the React ecosystem, and really all of the other popular JS ecosystems (vue, ), are very strong and you have so many available options. Stimulus is 2 steps back from jQuery, it inverted the Event delegation pattern. No one else outside of the rails community is using it.

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https://launchpointzero.com/launchsites/innovativ_es

https://x.com/tibo_maker/status/1840656616032489754

This post is certainly being critical, but I'm also not here to bring the hammer down. I am saying that it has grown very popular, and that makes it harder to get noticed. I know more than a few people have publicly complained on twitter about how their startup listing has been removed or bumped.

I also know there are a lot of scammers out there that PH has to battle against, trying to game the system. I know the people at G2.com when they started and were giving away free ipads for the top people with the most software reviews in a month, and someone tried to jump ahead by downvoting all the reviews of the people ahead of them in a month.

Clearly though expectations have changed. I'm certainly bummed for the 60% of the staff who were laid off. You can't just share your startup without some serious work beforehand or else you risk blowing your shot at 15 minutes of startup internet fame.

My point is not that PH is dying or not, but the game has changed and it has hurt makers who do this for the hope of making a full time living, and we're being crowded out by VC funded startups and previous PH launchers who have had past success (i.e. Tallyforms) that are "relaunching" and sucking up the little amount of attention available on PH. It's frustrating.

here's a couple of twitter feeds that center on the drama related to product hunt;

https://x.com/WhoWorksThere/status/1840822087868375085

https://x.com/csallen/status/1840792433447391560

https://x.com/HeyImYossi/status/1840634391040577847

theres a lot more in my feed and the people I follow this could be an all day thing but I hope this supports the headline of my post.

Options of "local hosting for development purposes"? Do you mean running "rails s" locally on your machine?

Maybe I should have shared in the article all the twitter posts where indie hackers are upset how they are getting screwed and how hard it is to get ranked on PH. There is a lot more drama surrounding PH than just the CTO not knowing one well known community member.

There are lots of other affordable, but probably not free, options now;

https://railway.app/ https://fly.io/ https://www.hetzner.com/ https://www.digitalocean.com/ https://render.com/

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