When the Packers upgrade their stadium and charge higher prices for tickets, I can promise you that they won't use the profits to buy back your shares or pay you a dividend.

"In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, "I don't see the use of this; let us clear it away." To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: "If you don't see the use of it, I certainly won't let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it.""

-G.K. Chesterton

#1: What you consider a "language" is one with its own official runtime. By your logic, Javascript is not a language either because the interpreter is usually written in C++ (e.g. V8, spidermonkey).

#2: Dogfooding a compiler and a runtime is common practice because most people believe that it will help the makers of a language identify bugs in their implementation or identify undefined behavior in the very definition of their language. However, every language must bootstrap from another language: most languages bootstrapped from a compiler written in C. If you trace the lineage from compiler to compiler to ... compiler, you'll most likely find that the second C compiler ever written was written in C and the first compiler was written in some architecture's assembly language. The same still applies for the new, new language of C99 which is less than half the age of C. C is so mature that rooting out new undefined behaviors is no longer a significant concern.

#3: libc is not just a "language runtime", it's the interface into the OS kernel for most operating systems. The runtime for every "real language" as you describe it ultimately uses libc. It doesn't make sense to separate the functions in the C99 standard from the OS's own syscalls and special-purpose user land functions call C standard library functions, and C's standard library relies on the OS's special functions. If they were separate libraries, there would be a circular dependency.

Think of C not as "not a language" but as a language that serves the unusual purpose of being the foundation for nearly everything else.

You have a point on integer types being a mess, but we have stdint.h for that.

I don't normally call for people to get fired from their jobs, but this is so disgusting to anyone who takes even a modicum of pride in their contribution to society.

Surely, someone gets fired for dismissing a legitimate, easily exploited RCE using a simple plaintext HTTP MITM attack as a WONTFIX... Right???

From your reasoning, it also follows that using infix notation instead of Polish notation for arithmetic does absolutely nothing to lower the learning curve.

Just to clarify, I definitely wasn't saying "everything should be written in C" or even merely asking the question "why not just use C for game programming?". I don't even think requiring core utilities shipped with an OS, like sed and awk interpreters to be written in C is necessary, and I'm sure I'll be excommunicated for that elsewhere.

I was just making a more general comment about making a language look familiar in terms of basic grammar to minimize the time spent in the initial phase of the learning curve.

I completely understand wanting to go with some code that "looks like" python. More people know how to use Python than C, which is really only for embedded programmers and systems programmers.

Really, this is a nice game scripting language you have here. All the good languages were made by their author for their author.

I'm just talking the same level of C familiarity that Java or Javascript went with.

This is just one microcosm of the general pattern I'm picking on here, but what's up with this obsession with scoping via indentation like Python? It's true that it looks a little more like a todo list someone would write on a sticky note, but I don't think C syntax is the hard part of systems programming or video game programming, which is what the creator of the Tomo language does.

It just seems like these kind of design choices needlessly add a barrier to entry for people who want to climb aboard.

Then again one must of necessity, have a ferocious "Not Invented Here" streak to go through all the trouble of inventing a new programming language in 2025.

... And those little boxes of instant au gratin.

I suppose rooting for people to die doesn't sound barbarous, so long as you're not rooting for anyone in particular to die.

All they need is one classmate similar to most of us here on this site. Someone in their high school who will show them how to use a proxy or a VPN not for cred, not for reward, but just because "fuck it, why not?"

In order to make a teenager stop doing something, all you need to do is show them videos of someone their parents' age doing it. Juxtapose a bunch of 40-somethings doing cringy little "TikTok dances" alongside people young enough to be their classmates, and they'll stop. Make another TikTok Cringe Compilation, but this time add more clips from middle-aged TikTok users.

My proposal might be insufficiently sophisticated and too actionable for the members of this community who think themselves to be righteous members of an enlightened class and who seek only to complain about current events to self-affirm their superiority. Nonetheless, I insist that anyone who will listen gives the following proposal consideration for the future of our children, whose FICA taxes shall pay for our retirements.

I told him, "What's the big deal? It's free insulation during brutal north Texas summers. It's as good as vermiculite insulation minus the asbestos contamination!"

I only put about as much rigor into this as reddit PC builders making untested "gut calls" about thermodynamics, and I was mostly just being a smartass, but it's nice to see I had the same idea as English nobility who comfortably survived winters before the invention of HVAC as we know it.

Nice to see some proof I'm not completely full of crap.

"No really, I do consequential stuff! See, I met CCP premiers and shit, I supply analytics to help North Koreans assassins kill exiles living in the US! Trust me bro"

I've trolled so many Palantir employees since my freshman year in undergrad that if even 1% of their claims about their power and connections held any water, I would have been audited by the IRS at least once in my life and a "clerical error" would have happened with my car title leading to a weekend in jail for stealing my own car.

I only know 2 Palantir employees in real life, and they are both at least as lame as you would expect someone who says their uncle works for Nintendo to be.

One of them is married to a furry who cheated on him before they got married and supports "consensual love between adults and children", and the other displayed all the outward signs of an incel. The former looks like the old "Carl the Cuck" meme guy (Drew Pickles haircut and Frank Grimes glasses), and the latter told me some copypasta-tier story about how he was friends with "Chinese Princesses". I wish I had my screen caps of this conversation back in 2014, but I deleted Facebook a decade ago. It was bombastic compared to even the Navy Seal copypasta.

If I had to sum it all up, imagine a sysadmin for the Worcester, MA police department pretending to be Lex Luthor on HN for clout.

https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/oci-containers-on-freebsd...

However, I still can't pinpoint what the value proposition is compared to using jails. Is there anybody around here able and willing to shed some light? I know I didn't use Cunningham's Law to start the conversation like a clever netizen but maybe, just this once, a good faith response to a good faith question is possible.

Is it the convenience utilities for building and running container images?

Everyone who replied completely missed my point, despite how simply and clearly I worded it. You're doing a masterful job illustrating it.

Everyone around here thinks that just because you don't need a college degree to become a software engineer or found an eventual multibillion dollar software company, that the same must generalize to every other profession, including biotech, law, and even medicine. Every technocrat is under the same delusion as Bill Gates that succeeding in their software qualifies them to do anything, despite the face that most people around here cannot even change their own spark plug or replace a flat tire.

I have an opinion on Chevron deference: letting party in a lawsuit interpret the laws and regulations concerning their own case is asinine. However, I don't pretend to know whether or not it can or should hold up in court based on stare decisis or any particular legal tradition.

More importantly, I don't operate under some delusion that other people would benefit from hearing my opinion on matters outside my own education or vocation.

"A fool uttereth all his mind: but a wise man keepeth it in till afterwards." -Proverbs 29:11