The examples I'm thinking of have definitely profited foreign interests, tho.

Look to see who profits.

I'm beginning to wonder if it might be the case that when my fellow citizens begin to act insane - might it be the result of foreign propaganda.

Yes - when an entity (agent, or hacker, or whatever) gets into your account, they can do anything they want.

I thought this community understood security better than this.

Why would I assume that sloppy and buggy software would be less popular?

I'll have to get back to you on that one.

I guess I'm assuming that sloppy and buggy software didn't much become popular.

Because it was sloppy and buggy.

I only see that construction used condescendingly.

I hope you understand, by so glibly switching from "determinism" to "authenticity" you've just provided more evidence that this is just the latest excuse to hate.

But that aside - what happens in a couple years, when LLMs inevitably improve, and their writing is objectively superior to human writing? And people who just want to read well-written material won't care about the authenticity?

I suspect there will be another glib switch. Because the reality here is just that AI is hated. Full stop.

HEH. I just read your comment three times and I definitely don't get it. I think its entire point is to express outrage about not getting it, rather than actually explain it.

Seems more like voodoo.

Not to mention, LLMs can be made deterministic if that were actually valuable.

Seems like determinism is just the latest excuse to hate.

... but clearly AI was used in the development?

That seems deeply cynical.

But it seems suspect to accept a practical solution in one area (humans) and deny it in an almost identical (machines with neuron based brains) area. No?

These questions need a practical solution, not a perfect one. That's the problem. We need to stop chasing the perfect one.

I think that was the ultimate point of the Turing test. We can't know for certain - so the best we can do is just ask.

Agreed. But that also means I have no empirical evidence that YOU are conscious either.