<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Hacker News: renyicircle</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=renyicircle</link><description>Hacker News RSS</description><docs>https://hnrss.org/</docs><generator>hnrss v2.1.1</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 17:53:14 +0000</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hnrss.org/user?id=renyicircle" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"></atom:link><item><title><![CDATA[New comment by renyicircle in "OpenAI withdraws three mathematical results"]]></title><description><![CDATA[
<p>The 6 additions are Lean verifications for already published pre-prints, not new results.</p>
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<p>Proof steps can become different in Lean but still work to prove the theorem. Incorrect proof steps in the NL paper could also be converted to correct ones in Lean. The paper shows some examples of this. So the NL paper can't be trusted even if Lean verification passes, but it doesn't immediately mean that the NL proof is wrong or that Lean is checking the wrong thing.</p>
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<p>Another discussion: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50002650">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50002650</a></p>
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<p>This is what it looks like when software engineering practices meet mathematics. "openai/math release 1.3.42: retracted papers 139 and 140, fixed a sign error in paper 47, restored previously retracted paper 85, refactored the arguments in paper 101".<p>I'm curious to know if the withdrawal was due to an actual mathematician looking at the papers and noticing the errors, or they ran a model on these to proofread, which would not be the first time, presumably, since they would have surely done that before publishing. Both options have interesting implications.</p>
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<p>I had the same idea recently. You've solved all the famous conjectures (all formulated by humans because humans found them interesting), what next? I doubt "AI formulated a math conjecture that nobody else cares about and immediately solved it" will produce that much hype. The actually interesting thing is indeed how mathematicians themselves will use these AI models going forward and how that will shape mathematics of the future.</p>
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<p>> Even the Millennium Prize Problems have, in a way, become benchmarks for model companies to prove themselves<p>Well, let them have these. They'll play around with open problems which generate media hype and then they might run out and move on to something else, because "AI came up with a problem and solved it in 3 days" won't have the same effects as "AI solved a problem in 3 days that humans couldn't solve in 100 years".</p>
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<p>The way I've understood this whole thing so far, the main reason why the mathematicians are so energized right now is because the AI companies' problem solving spree frames mathematics as a discipline that exists to solve open problems.
Mathematicians don't fully share this view even though they value problem solving, and they're afraid that this framing will produce the following chain of thought in the public:
Mathematicians get paid to solve problems -> AI solves problems better -> we don't need to pay mathematicians.
So they're trying to reframe their work to shift problem solving to the background and keep getting paid.
I leave it to the mathematicians to explain what their value is, as they would do a better job of it, and it remains to be seen if this reframing will work.<p>Regardless of that, what happens long-term if AI gets good enough to solve all the hard open problems?<p>Millenium problems may give AI companies some temporary hype, but advancing research in some narrow directions to find new problems is probably not worth it to them.
In addition, current problems have clear, human-defined acceptance criteria. 
Problems that are both found and solved by AI will be opaque enough not to generate interest in anyone unless they are found to have immediate applications.
Mathematicians will somewhat distrust 1M+ LOC Lean formalizations as well as any original AI output in the form of creating a bunch of new concepts. There will surely be heated discussions around that.<p>Afterwards, mathematicians take some time to catch up with the solutions to existing problems, use AI to understand them and map out further directions. 
Problem solving by AI companies slows down since there are no cool problems left. They move on, mathematicians get back to whatever they were doing before, now with the help of AI.<p>With every mathematician having a strong mathematical AI model, a new problem arises. 
At any point of the current mathematical frontier, a mathematician can use AI to explore a new direction at a high speed.
If all mathematicians do that, each will have their very advanced understanding of their direction until they fail to catch up the AI, and nobody knows whose direction is the one that others should check up with.
Many possible connections with other branches and explored directions will be lost, unless there's a unified map of all these explorations.
It will be hard to create this map, because while exploring one direction may have a moderate cost for a mathematician, 
having an AI do an overview of all other explorations to find some commonalities and synthesize the findings into a unified theory will take serious amounts of resources only available to AI companies, which they might be reluctant to spend.<p>Individual mathematicians' explorations will slow down to human level, too, with their unique findings being hard to publish because nobody will care and the mathematical community wants to do things that other mathematicians can appreciate.<p>In the end, the mathematicians' work does not change that drastically, unless AI gets good enough to one-shot some new crazy branch of mathematics that reveals something with high real-world impact. But that's a discussion for another time.</p>
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<p>Yes, that could be the case. I'm not a mathematician but I gave my fair share of struggle towards trying to understand the mathematics behind physics that I was studying. You don't need to know what a smooth manifold is to solve problems in classical mechanics, just as you don't need to know what a tensor product of vector spaces is to learn what tensors are in the context of neural networks. The former is always harder because the standard of rigor is higher, and that's because of different goals. So it could be that a person tries to look up what a tensor is, finds the mathematician's definition first, thinks "what the hell is this", then finds a simpler explanation in applied contexts and goes away with the idea that mathematicians unnecessarily complicate things, because the reason <i>why</i> the mathematical definition has to be so complicated escapes them.</p>
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<p>I still don't quite agree with the approach to mathematics as enumerating problems of a certain size, but to be honest I'm not prepared or motivated to keep this conversation going without turning to handwavy arguments based on my imperfect idea of what mathematics is and how it works. However, it's certainly given me something to think about, so it hasn't been completely pointless. Thank you for the discussion.</p>
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<p>> the concepts were far less hard than the combination of notation and esoteric jargon with liberal use of symbols and weird letters made them seem<p>I really don't get the hate for mathematical notation here, do you have specific examples? Notation is a necessary tool to express complex ideas compactly so that others can understand them. It allows you to carry out technical proofs that confirm things that are "obvious". Then it uses previously introduced concepts to build new concepts on top of them. This keeps mathematics interconnected, there's value in explaining a concept in terms of already known things rather than just vibing it.<p>> makes itself intentionally hard<p>It doesn't make itself intentionally hard, it is just hard. You can simplify some expositions and make concepts easier to understand intuitively but it won't necessarily give you the skills to actually work with them in mathematical practice (which is the point of mathematics as a discipline).</p>
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<p>I mean, there's some truth to that joke in this case, so I wouldn't agree that it's dismissing. The point of it is that what matters is how we define "interesting", because by the joke's definition in particular, there can't be uninteresting problems. That seems to be a very subjective concept that can also change with time. Mathematics is so specialized that there can be 3 people in the world who find one specific problem interesting. If they solve it, they'll move on to something else.<p>I find it curious that you've protested against that joke but not against the statement that "it seems likely that there's a finite number of interesting math problems". It doesn't seem likely to me personally and I haven't seen proof of that, even in a joke form. There's a finite number of problems at any given time, obviously, because mathematicians are finite, but it would require a very good understanding of the whole of our mathematical knowledge to declare that if we keep expanding it we'll hit some kind of wall, of "interestingness" or whatever else.</p>
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<p>I think that's a variation on the interesting numbers paradox joke.
Statement: All numbers are interesting.
Proof: Assume by contradiction that there's a non-empty set of uninteresting numbers. Then that set contains the smallest uninteresting number. That property makes it interesting.</p>
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<p>Sometimes they even say "I know I'm pretty, too" at the end.</p>
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<p>That makes perfect sense. Using language in unorthodox ways to convey very specific concepts that only make sense to you and sound like bullshit to others.</p>
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<p>The Claude output in the first one-shot counterexample attempt is hilarious. I hate its writing most of the time but this stuff is next level deep-fried slop.<p>> And the control column confirms the resonance-necessity conjecture empirically: break the skeleton alignment and the joint kernel dies at the constrained window, exactly as the transversality heuristic predicted.<p>> The den has air in it.<p>> Drift fuel exists.</p>
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<p>Thanks, that sounds interesting. As I said in a parallel comment after some thought on this, nobody can really say with absolute certainty that a particular branch will forever stay useless, so that should be good enough to keep going.<p>Sometimes one can be convinced that their mathematics will be useful, too. I've just recalled a rather motivating (though his life story is rather sad) quote by Grassmann, the inventor of modern linear algebra, whose mathematical work was not appreciated during his lifetime.<p>"I remain completely confident that the labour I have expended on the science presented here and which has demanded a significant part of my life as well as the most strenuous application of my powers, will not be lost. It is true that I am aware that the form which I have given the science is imperfect and must be imperfect. But I know and feel obliged to state (though I run the risk of seeming arrogant) that even if this work should again remain unused for another seventeen years or even longer, without entering into the actual development of science, still that time will come when it will be brought forth from the dust of oblivion and when ideas now dormant will bring forth fruit. I know that if I also fail to gather around me (as I have until now desired in vain) a circle of scholars, whom I could fructify with these ideas, and whom I could stimulate to develop and enrich them further, yet there will come a time when these ideas, perhaps in a new form, will arise anew and will enter into a living communication with contemporary developments. For truth is eternal and divine."</p>
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<p>Yes, there's so many applications that we couldn't even imagine until we got modern computers, and most of us couldn't imagine them either until we got them. What didn't sit right with me is that these concepts are a very small subset of mathematics, and look like "basic" stuff, while the branches got developed much further than what the applications could catch up with. You don't need Fermat's last theorem for cryptography, for example. I have no idea if we'll ever need homotopy groups of high-dimensional spheres, etc.<p>Either way it seems like nobody is in a position to say "this branch of math will surely stay arcane abstract nonsense forever", so the argument for continuing specialized math research comes down to "we might lose out on some cool stuff if we stop", even if most of it will indeed remain useless for a long time.</p>
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<p>> mathematics breakthrough that results in some miraculous medical or other discovery<p>Do you believe it is possible or have any recent examples? I feel like most of the stuff that could be applied to something like this has probably already been developed 100 years ago. This hope for some miracle math that cures cancer sounds like the thing they tell the government to keep the funding going. Most of modern pure mathematics doesn't look like it has any chance of being that. It's getting more specialized every day with more and more papers on obscure topics being published that 2 people in the world read.<p>I'd love to be corrected as I quite enjoy mathematics myself, though not professionally.</p>
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<p>The coolest part of this for me is that it's not only reverse engineering the RNG and being able to predict random rolls, which is relatively simple for that PRNG algorithm, but then being able to implement that algorithm in-game using combinator networks. There are already a lot of amazing things that you can do with combinators and this is a great example to add to the list.</p>
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<p>I'm with you on this. We have Claude at work and I get exhausted from using it just a bit. I've recently seen it say "let me verify the most load-bearing claims". I couldn't imagine anyone using "load-bearing", let alone "most load-bearing". Doesn't "load-bearing" alone imply "most"? I have so many questions for Anthropic about how they came up with this style.</p>
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