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New comment by sagichmal in "Log by time, not by count"

sagichmal — Mon, 21 Jul 2025 17:25:14 +0000

Yup.

Somewhat formalized: https://peter.bourgon.org/blog/2018/08/22/observability-sign...

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Sat, 09 Oct 2021 12:40:40 +0000

This is definitely not true (shrug) Attrition has more than doubled and most engineering teams are critically understaffed.

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Sat, 09 Oct 2021 12:39:41 +0000

Most do, though, because there does tend to be a more correct position on this class of stuff.

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Sat, 09 Oct 2021 12:37:55 +0000

> A handful of people left

They lost close to half of their engineering team, significant percentages of their operations teams, and many senior leaders.

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:43:22 +0000

No, I don't know anyone at Basecamp.

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:42:39 +0000

I'm not sure why you think people who care about justice harass coworkers as a matter of course. It's strictly the opposite, in my (considerable) experience.

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 21:30:11 +0000

I’m not sure why you think people who care about justice draw that energy from the same pool that motivates their work, as if it’s a zero-sum calculus. It isn’t. People who think about things systemically tend to apply that perspective in all of their practices. And that’s the value.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 20:01:12 +0000

My point is that DEBUG level logging is (hopefully!) not on by default, and that this is what it makes the production log volume manageable.

My experience has been that 1 customer-facing byte tends to generate something like ~10 DEBUG-level telemetry bytes. This level of request amplification can't be feasibly sustained at nontrivial request volumes, your logging infrastructure would dwarf your production infrastructure.

New comment by sagichmal in "1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company"

sagichmal — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 19:56:19 +0000

Yes. All of the "private" correspondence he's received, which of course he cannot share, has been overwhelmingly positive. Indeed.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Fri, 08 Oct 2021 00:05:34 +0000

Hah! OK, sure.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 03:23:06 +0000

I am currently at an organisation where Splunk is a bottleneck.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 03:20:53 +0000

Only at trivial request volume. It’s easy to overwhelm any logging system without discipline.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 03:18:37 +0000

Log after is SOP in any reasonably large architecture. Too much logging is a problem you encounter very quickly with nontrivial traffic.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 03:16:36 +0000

Logging is significantly cheaper than tracing to maintain in a usable state.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 03:15:00 +0000

You only emit a single log event (line) per request. Problem solved.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 03:14:00 +0000

Yes, it’s useful, but that occasional usefulness is substantially outweighed by it’s perpetual cost.

New comment by sagichmal in "My Logging Best Practices (2020)"

sagichmal — Wed, 06 Oct 2021 02:46:25 +0000

Nope, this produces unmanageable log volume.

New comment by sagichmal in "Effective Go"

sagichmal — Mon, 04 Oct 2021 13:01:26 +0000

When I read MVC I guess I take it pretty literally, in that you would have packages named model/s, view/s, and controller/s. That's what I'm speaking to. Of course, abstractly, many programs tend to be structured in some kind of layering scheme that's MVC-ish :)

New comment by sagichmal in "Things Go needs more than generics"

sagichmal — Mon, 04 Oct 2021 12:58:06 +0000

You continue to assert that error handling adds noise to a block of code. This is an opinion, that's fine, but it's not an objective truth. In many many domains -- in fact the domains which Go targets -- error handling is equally important to business logic.

New comment by sagichmal in "Things Go needs more than generics"

sagichmal — Mon, 04 Oct 2021 12:55:55 +0000

That is not at all what those links indicate.